Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5766 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 17 of 32 08 June 2012 at 4:48pm | IP Logged |
I wish I'd be as grown up about the whole matter as iguanamon is, but I do get infatuated with languages for one reason or another. It's just that this infatuation is not enough to make me more than dabble in the language; if I want to keep on studying it I need to find the human connection, I need to find people I really want to understand and ultimately be able to talk to - or I need to make a commitment I can't break easily. And I need to keep my studies up until I can maintain or improve simply using native materials I enjoy.
I don't know if I'll ever return to Latin. It'd be kind of cool, but I have other priorities at this time in my life. French used to be that kind of language for the longest time, too.
Edited by Bao on 08 June 2012 at 4:50pm
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5056 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 18 of 32 08 June 2012 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
tractor wrote:
Марк wrote:
it would be strange if you associate the Russian
language
with Stalin who was not a
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That's bad, especially if they associate the Russian language with Stalin.
Stalin rarely performed public speeches, they were not spoken impressively. He had
certain foreign accent, he had problems with soft р, does not pronounce ы, his vowel
reduction and accentuation
are not Russian either. He certainly knew Russian well, I don't know if he made grammar
mistakes in spontaneous speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2wkFgHnTXs
Edited by Марк on 08 June 2012 at 6:21pm
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5056 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 19 of 32 08 June 2012 at 6:24pm | IP Logged |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrIPg3TRbno&feature=related
A much better example.
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5453 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 20 of 32 08 June 2012 at 10:24pm | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
tractor wrote:
Марк wrote:
it would be strange if you associate the Russian
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I'm sure a lot of people are not aware of that. |
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That's bad, especially if they associate the Russian language with Stalin. |
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What I meant to say was that I doubt that most people in Western Europe are aware that Stalin was from Georgia and
that his native language wasn't Russian. They associate Stalin with Russia, the Soviet Union, Communism etc.
However, when people think of Russia or the Russian language, Stalin is probably not the first thing that springs to
mind.
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sillygoose1 Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4636 days ago 566 posts - 814 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: German, Latin
| Message 21 of 32 09 June 2012 at 12:33am | IP Logged |
I certainly did not know Stalin was Georgian. And of all places, where else to learn that but on a language forum. Yay internet!
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 22 of 32 09 June 2012 at 12:49am | IP Logged |
Bao wrote:
And I need to keep my studies up until I can maintain or improve simply using native materials I enjoy. |
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Start using more authentic materials straight away! LR, GLOSS, lyricstraining...
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5766 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 23 of 32 09 June 2012 at 12:58am | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
Bao wrote:
And I need to keep my studies up until I can maintain or improve simply using native materials I enjoy. |
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Start using more authentic materials straight away! LR, GLOSS, lyricstraining... |
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I may have phrased that too weakly. I mean: until I can maintain or improve by only using native materials without having to consult dictionaries, grammars, translations or annotations when I don't feel like it. Which is most of the time, really.
^_~
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jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5034 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese
| Message 24 of 32 09 June 2012 at 3:14am | IP Logged |
sillygoose1 wrote:
I certainly did not know Stalin was Georgian. And of all places, where else to learn that but on a language forum. Yay internet! |
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I was unaware of it until after I read Mark's post. Thank you, Mark.
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