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nowayyy Bilingual Triglot Newbie Germany Joined 5319 days ago 6 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English*, German*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 25 of 32 12 June 2012 at 2:48pm | IP Logged |
When I was about 13/14 I was really in love with Spanish. I listenend to a lot of Spanish music and bought myself a very cheap language course. But because I had homework to do and soon started learning French at school and stopped learning it. At first I hated French, I didn't like the sound of it, but after one year of learning the language I went on holiday in France and after that I was in love with it. I was suddenly really eager to learn more and got really excited when I realised I understood something someone said. At the same time though Spanish stared sounding more and more unpleasant to me.
Then after a trip to Sweden and hearing Swedish for the first time in my life 4 years ago I fell in love with it. Now my level of French is high enough to start a new language. I decided to go with Swedish and I'm really pleased with it.
I contemplated picking up Spanish but I've just lost the intrest. The sound of the language just does not appeal to me any more, even though speaking Spanish is defintily a skill I would lke to have, but apparently that is not enough to keep me motivated. I guess I've fallen out of love with Spanish :(
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 26 of 32 12 June 2012 at 2:59pm | IP Logged |
Sounds like you need a trip to Spain ;)
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| nowayyy Bilingual Triglot Newbie Germany Joined 5319 days ago 6 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English*, German*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 27 of 32 14 June 2012 at 5:55pm | IP Logged |
Yeah, sounds like that would be the solution but I've actually been to spain last year and I'm going this year again :D
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| Zarmutek Newbie United States twitter.com/manueljoRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4725 days ago 28 posts - 74 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 28 of 32 16 June 2013 at 12:51am | IP Logged |
iguanamon wrote:
This may seem surprising but I don't fall in "love" with a language. I know that is
heresy here on a forum where it seems like every other member's goal is to be the next great polyglot. I
learn a language because I wish to understand and communicate with the people who speak that
language and understand and enjoy their cultures, not because of verb conjugation, cool scripts, or
grammatical features. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just not my motivation in language learning. To
me a language is a means to an end.
Learning Spanish has given me access to some wonderful peoples, cultures and cultural experiences. Yes,
Spanish is indeed the language of the gang members of MS13 and misogynistic rappers. It is also the
language of Pablo Neruda, Federico García Lorca, Isabel Allende, Gabriel García Márquez and Rubén
Blades. It is the language of a certain criminal underclass in the US and also the language of the vast
majority of hard-working immigrant families who have made many, many valuable contributions to US
society. The good people far outnumber the bad. The bad just seem to get more attention.
There is good and bad in every society. I recognize the bad exists but I choose not to dwell on it. I choose,
instead, to concentrate on the good. I associate Japanese with Akira Kurosawa, anime, manga and Sony,
not Tojo and Hirohito. I associate German with Goethe, Kraftwerk, Hesse and my friend Karsten, not WWII.
I associate Russian with Dostoevsky, Gogol, Solzhenitsyn, the Bolshoi Ballet and Rachmaninoff, not Stalin.
How you see a language and the culture it represents is a choice- to each his/her own. We are all entitled
to our own preferences. To me, the glass is more than half full and that philosophy makes me happy.
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That... that was beautiful.
Edited by Zarmutek on 16 June 2013 at 12:53am
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| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4847 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese
| Message 29 of 32 16 June 2013 at 1:48am | IP Logged |
Yes, iguanamon certainly has a way with words!
I'm like others who mentioned Esperanto here. For the past two years, I've started studying Esperanto in the summer, only to give it up by the time autumn arrives. Like clockwork, I've started up Esperanto again, and this time I'm not thinking about how far I can go in the language, but when I am going to give it up again.
I like the "pieces" of Esperanto (roots, suffixes, prefixes, etc.) and how you can put them together to make words. For such an "easy" language, there are many ways one can express themselves in Esperanto. In short, I love the language itself.
But as others have pointed out, a love for the language itself is usually not enough. I also like the Portuguese language as well, but there are things associated with the language that I also like. I'm interested in the music, culture and sports of Brazil. I have an interest in Portugal, Angola and Mozambique. So, even though I don't have anybody yet to talk to, face-to-face, in Portuguese, those other things keep me going in the language. For Esperanto, if I can find something to associate with it that I like, I would have a better chance of continuing on to a higher level. (And no, the Esperanto movement won't do it for me.)
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| Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4369 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans
| Message 30 of 32 16 June 2013 at 7:44pm | IP Logged |
I suppose the closest I could say I've come to "falling out of love" with a language is with Spanish. But I have to qualify that because I was never truly "in love" with the language in the first place. I saw it as a useful language, and one that would be incredibly beneficial to knowing, but I never had the connection with it that I have with others. I went to a Catholic university and was very involved with the music program there for campus services. The whole time I was there, the director insisted on Spanish music because of the growing use of the language in the US and the utility of it, although there really never was a large Spanish speaking population who would attend; the Spanish native speakers tended to go to other churches that conducted entire services in the language, not just individual songs.
I don't really understand why, but for some reason, the feeling of being forced into singing Spanish music, that wasn't of good quality, especially when most people didn't speak Spanish, almost gave me a resentment towards the language. It's a pretty ridiculous reason, but maybe it's not even a linguistic issue. I think I tend to form connections with a culture and language based off of its musical traditions, and the first time I was exposed to Spanish language music, it was a type that just didn't connect with me. I should add though, that I only very recently discovered Spanish language opera and mariachi, so I could see my opinion changing at some point.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4707 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 31 of 32 17 June 2013 at 5:43pm | IP Logged |
Can't remember that I ever did, although I don't care as much about Latin as I used to.
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| DaisyMaisy Senior Member United States Joined 5380 days ago 115 posts - 178 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish Studies: Swedish, Finnish
| Message 32 of 32 24 June 2013 at 4:01am | IP Logged |
Fantastic post, Iguanamon!
I knew Stalin was from Georgia, but I always assumed he spoke Russian as a native language. Interesting. Just as an aside, when I hear Russian the first thing that I picture is the old Orthodox cathedrals (forgive my utter ignorance in not knowing the names of the ones with those wonderful domes on them!), snowy winters and frozen rivers. So probably not a thorough overview of all that is Russian, but at least I don't think of Stalin!
I'm struggling to stay in love with Spanish. I like it well enough, and I love the tons of reading materials, TV, radio, and native speakers everywhere. I literally hear Spanish everyday have and neighbors and coworkers to practice on (I try not to bug them too much). As much as I love how totally useful it is, I really want to work on Swedish and Finnish but I'm making myself get at least passably decent in Spanish first.
I must say though, after even looking at a book on Arabic (new native speaker at work who is having fun teaching me a few words, so I was inspired) - I realized how studying a language I have at least some past study in and hear all the time, and uses the same alphabet and is in the same overall language family, is an advantage. To those who study Arabic - I salute you! It does not look easy!
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