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| Travod Newbie United States Joined 4585 days ago 17 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 1 of 15 09 July 2012 at 2:34am | IP Logged | |||||
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To prepare for my Japanese SAT Subject Test on November 3, 2012, I need to learn a lot of kanji to be
able to even read the passages I'll be tested on. Last year I took it and bombed horribly, so I'm starting early this time! So starting today I'm going to try and learn five kanji a day and get through my list (which has around 150 kanji on it, picked them out by going through my new kanji book and deciding which might be useful). I already know anywhere from 50-100 kanji from school (I've never counted, so whatever). Method: Use the book "Japanese Kanji and Kana: A Complete Guide to the Japanese Writing System" and jisho.org for stroke order, readings, and meanings. Basically I'm just going to write them 20 times and see if they stick. So far it's working. July 8 起、走、売、歩、寝 Wake up, Run, Sell, Walk, Sleep 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Travod Newbie United States Joined 4585 days ago 17 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 2 of 15 09 July 2012 at 5:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
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July 9
駅、屋、家、帰、待 Train station, Store, House, Return, Wait And I successfully remembered yesterday's kanji! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Travod Newbie United States Joined 4585 days ago 17 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 3 of 15 10 July 2012 at 10:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
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教、取、習、古、新 Teach, Take, Learn, Old, New I'm thinking every ~20ish I should take a day off and just review what I've done so far. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5782 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes  Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian | Message 4 of 15 11 July 2012 at 7:19am | IP Logged | |||||
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I did what you are doing when I first starting learning Japanese and I think it's a
flawed approach. To be clear, learning by writing and doing a set number a day is fine, but it's important to learn kanji in the context of words. Instead of "教、取、習、古、新 = Teach, Take, Learn, Old, New" you should learn "教える、取る、習う、古い、新しい = Teach, Take, Learn, Old, New". Even if you already know the words, it's important to learn and practice proper okurigana usage (the hiragana that shows verb/adjective inflection). For example, "おし える, to teach" and "おそわる, to be taught" use the same kanji 教 but are distinguished by okurigana: 教える and 教わる. For your reference, I wrote a post about the method I developed for learning vocab/kanji. Doing exactly the same may not work for you but it's food for thought. link 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4664 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 5 of 15 11 July 2012 at 6:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Are you learning to recognise the kanji or the readings too?
Have you seen this website: http://kanji.koohii.com/ (Reviewing the Kanji). You basically learn to recognise the component parts of each Kanji and associate each with a keyword. It doesn't teach readings, the idea is to learn what each Kanji looks like and then when you see them used in context you pick up what they mean. (Basically it's like learning the letters of the alphabet plus their "names", except the alphabet is reasonably large ...). 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Travod Newbie United States Joined 4585 days ago 17 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese | Message 6 of 15 12 July 2012 at 2:40am | IP Logged | |||||
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安、悪、暑、寒、楽 Cheap, Bad, Hot, Cold, Fun Yes, these are all words I know and I'm making sure to also learn which part of the words the kanji represent, like “安” in "安い” And since this is mostly for the purpose of being able to read them on a multiple choice test (in the context of a reading passage) I'm not learning every possible way the kanji can be used (like the difference between teach and be taught) because it's only going to be asking for the most basic of definitions. Even simpler, I don't /really/ need to know how to read them but just recognize them when reading a story (though I'd hardly call them stories, they are either advertisements, notes, or short journals, etc) . It's going to be a while before I really put all these kanji to use in writing because my mind is still stuck on the idea that writing ならいます is so much easier to write than 習います :P I will look over your links and try different approaches. Thanks for posting, I was starting to think I was alone! By the way, here's a few samples of the passages: http://bit.ly/Lan45g Edited by Travod on 12 July 2012 at 3:00am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4664 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 7 of 15 12 July 2012 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
I thought that when I first started frequenting this forum, but if you look around there's plenty of Japanese Learning Logs.
Thanks. That's part of the reason I hang around this forum and the RTK forums too: plenty of links to new materials :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5782 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian | Message 8 of 15 13 July 2012 at 3:11am | IP Logged | |||||
If your goal is to actually learn Japanese, meaning you'll be continuing your studies and not just using a high SAT II score on your college app, you should learn to read them properly from the start. As you said, you don't need to learn every associated word/pronunciation now, but you'll get more mileage out of 寒い=さむい='cold' than 寒 ='cold'. After the first 100 or so, kanji meanings become more vague and there are few 1-to-1 correspondences.
I'm of the opinion that Japan could do away with kanji as Korea did and function just fine, but we have to accept that for cultural reasons they probably never will. That's just something we have to deal with. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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