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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes  Speaks: Russian* | Message 9 of 16 29 September 2012 at 10:58am | IP Logged | ||
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The hard sign is always disjunctive as well as the soft sign before a vowel. съесть
sjesʲtʲ, сесть - sʲesʲtʲ, объяснить - ɐbji'sʲnʲitʲ. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5833 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 10 of 16 22 October 2012 at 2:10am | IP Logged | ||
So which is ш and which is щ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 11 of 16 22 October 2012 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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ш - [ʂ], щ - [ɕ]
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 12 of 16 22 October 2012 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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That explains a whole lot, Mark, hahaha...I saw that difference today in my Swedish
lesson when I was pronouncing "känns" with a ch instead of a sh. My teacher is Russian so she told me to use that latter Swedish letter :) Edited by tarvos on 22 October 2012 at 6:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Aquila123 Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mydeltapi.com Joined 5307 days ago 201 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Finnish, Russian | Message 13 of 16 23 October 2012 at 12:37am | IP Logged | ||
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I think variants of Norwegian have those two sounds. The not-platalized version written rs, and the palatalized one as sj/sk/skj.
The rs belongs to the retroflex series of consonants, where you also find rn, rl, rt and rd. For example in my own speach there is a definite difference between the rs in arsen (the name of an elment) and the sj in sjel (soul). But it is difficult to find minimal pairs. Edited by Aquila123 on 23 October 2012 at 6:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5833 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 14 of 16 23 October 2012 at 12:49am | IP Logged | ||
So щ is the equivalent of English sh? That is a relevation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6910 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 15 of 16 23 October 2012 at 1:49am | IP Logged | ||
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Not really, but "close enough":
English sh - [ʃ] Mandarin x/Russian щ - [ɕ] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolo-palatal_frica tive 1 person has voted this message useful |
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