limey75 Senior Member United Kingdom germanic.eu/ Joined 4399 days ago 119 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Norwegian, Old English
| Message 1 of 7 11 December 2012 at 11:47pm | IP Logged |
Has anyone here any experience with the På vei course by Cappelen?
link here
I'm planning on buying it.
I'm at the strange stage of being able to read Sult by Hamsun, but being A1 as far as *speaking* is concerned...
Thanks for any feedback! :)
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5334 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 2 of 7 12 December 2012 at 12:33am | IP Logged |
Have you considered joining the Scandinavian TAC team? As a Norwegian I do not use learning material, but
you might benefit from joining a group of people who learn Norwegian and the other Scandinavian
languages.
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sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4559 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish
| Message 3 of 7 13 December 2012 at 7:45am | IP Logged |
Your situation is an interesting one. In fact, it rather sounds like something a native speaker of another Scandinavian language might say.
Just to get this straight, do you mean you have little in the way of active skills in general, or that speaking specifically—and thus pronunciation—is your weak point? How about explicit grammar knowledge or listening comprehension? Also, when you say read, do you mean "read somewhat fluently without resorting to a dictionary", or something along those lines?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out why someone with your level would even consider using a beginner textbook. You have a LOT of passive skills you can and should take advantage of. If, as I suspect, you can read quite well, but fall short in the other areas I mentioned, I would consider doing something like the following:
1) Get yourself a compact, 100–200-page Norwegian grammar, and read all of it, memorizing the inflexion tables (there aren't that many).
2) Do lots of L2-L2 listening–reading. This should consolidate your grammar knowledge and get your listening comprehension to a decent level (and improve your idiomatic awareness and activate some of your passive vocabulary, as all input does)
3) Do some vocabulary work to build a strong active vocabulary, and to learn spelling.
Edit:
In the interest of full disclosure, I think it's fair to add that the above is what I'm planning to do for Danish and Norwegian, and as such strongly reflects my personal preferences. Though as of yet untested, this approach seems reasonably well motivated to me, which is why I suggested it in the first place.
Edited by sans-serif on 13 December 2012 at 5:13pm
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Jolla Newbie United States xkcd.com Joined 4360 days ago 6 posts - 7 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian
| Message 4 of 7 19 December 2012 at 5:23am | IP Logged |
I have been using På Vei and after a few chapters I can say that it is excellent--but only if you have the
workbook and the audio tracks that go along with it. However, the text is all Norwegian, so if you do not
completely understand the grammar you will need a bilingual textbook to explain the finer points (though it
sounds like you already have grammar down).
Have you thought about using L-R to work on aural comprehension?
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Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4749 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish
| Message 5 of 7 19 December 2012 at 8:58pm | IP Logged |
På vei is a great classroom course (a teacher has an important role in it).
It's a bad self-learning course (unless you get the workbook and the teacher's book as well)
Edited by Camundonguinho on 19 December 2012 at 9:05pm
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limey75 Senior Member United Kingdom germanic.eu/ Joined 4399 days ago 119 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Norwegian, Old English
| Message 6 of 7 19 December 2012 at 9:32pm | IP Logged |
Thanks, guys.
@sans-serif: many thanks for your reasoned post. I think your method sounds good. But I want to start right from basics, it's the only way to get rid of ingrained bad habits.
Let me know how you get on with your method!
@Camundonguinho: what course can you recommend then for self-learning?
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laban Triglot Groupie Israel Joined 5822 days ago 87 posts - 96 votes Speaks: Modern Hebrew*, English, Italian Studies: Norwegian, German
| Message 7 of 7 28 December 2012 at 7:08pm | IP Logged |
I believe På vei is one of the main textbooks used in teaching foreign students, or at
least one of the more available ones. I've looked at several others and noticed they're
all pretty much the same, so I started with På vei and even went on with the rest of the
series. If you're going get it, you should definitely get the full package with the
workbook and tapes. And as mentioned above, it's all in Norwegian, as it's designed for
the classroom (I suppose). So, it does require some basic understanding of the language.
My first book was TY, and only then I moved to På vei.
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