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Via Diva
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 Message 25 of 37
28 April 2014 at 7:50pm | IP Logged 
I'm a pessimistic person and once I found something to be satisfied
with I start to want more or be picky with things I have learned.
I'm not satisfied even with my native language sometimes, let alone
English. I'm not sure if I ever will.
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soclydeza85
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 Message 26 of 37
29 April 2014 at 9:48pm | IP Logged 
Never. Satisfaction means lack of desire to progress.
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Retinend
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 Message 27 of 37
30 April 2014 at 8:53am | IP Logged 
Well... no. No it doesn't mean that. I´m personally more interested in hearing what people
consider their major milestones. These are the things that keep you going and remind you
of how far you've come.
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Jeffers
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 Message 28 of 37
30 April 2014 at 10:05am | IP Logged 
First of all: love the topic!

Some of us study languages until they are satisfied and then leave them. That's okay
for some, but I'm looking for a life-long relationship. The languages I'm focused on
are languages I expect to continue to use throughout my life. I'm studying them, but
I'm also building them into my life. For example, having lived in India, I got into
Hindi films to practice my Hindi. Now I still study Hindi to improve my understanding
of Hindi films.

My first level of satisfaction would be to read for pleasure, and to be able to "get
by" when travelling in the country. I am really happy that the last SC got me to the
"reading for pleasure" threshold in French with Le Petit Nicolas. Not that I
necessarily understand the magic 95% of the vocabulary, but I find the stories so
enjoyable that I will happily read one when I'm just looking for something interesting
to read rather than for study.

My second level would be to be able to read just about anything, to be able to express
myself in writing, and to be able to hold conversations without the urge to switch to
English. Those goals are still a long way off for me.
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Zomxilla
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 Message 29 of 37
30 April 2014 at 10:42am | IP Logged 
My goals are a little vague at present. I think I just thoroughly enjoy the process of
learning a language. I love the different sounds of all the different languages...I don't
know how many I could learn. The sound of Tagalog is incredibly pleasant to me, but I'm
not sure if I would ever get around to studying it.

Recently I've had a fascination with the Scandinavian languages, starting with Swedish. I
would love to learn Norwegian and Finnish, too. Oh, and can't forget Mandarin - I live in
a city where there are many opportunities to speak Mandarin and it is probably my most
proficient second language, though it is still at a very basic level...

I'm learning German because I have a friend who is fairly fluent and a couple of others
who are learning it.

And of course I have Russian, which I am hopelessly in love with, though haven't had a
chance to properly study. What a beautiful language!

Back to the topic on hand, though. At the moment I would be very pleased if any of my
languages allowed me to hold a conversation on basic topics, or to be able to read some
short novel. So that would be my "level one" satisfaction. Level two would be...watching
a native movie without having to look up the words in a dictionary, and to have as close
an accent as possible. Swedish pronunciation is giving me a hard time at the moment, but
it makes it all the more interesting!
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Expugnator
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 Message 30 of 37
30 April 2014 at 7:26pm | IP Logged 
I believe my satisfaction is increasing. Looking back, I realize I went from 'trying to learn a language to 'actually speaking a language'.

I'm satisfied with my English in spite of the evident mistakes. It is functional, allows me to travel the world. I can always take a break and work on the critical points, but that's not a priority now, as I don't need English for professional purposes.

Level 1
Talk to native speakers and don't get them tempted into switching to English. Textchatting and not having to look up every other word. I'm close to that level in French, but I've had some bad days. I want to reach it with Norwegian and Georgian. With Russian and Mandarin I'd be happy with just reading with the help of a dictionary.

Level 2
Read novels and watch news, films and TV comfortably; express almost everything with occasional rephrasing. I'm close to that level in English. I want to reach it with French, German and Spanish.
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soclydeza85
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 Message 31 of 37
30 April 2014 at 9:11pm | IP Logged 
Retinend wrote:
Well... no. No it doesn't mean that. I´m personally more interested in hearing what people
consider their major milestones. These are the things that keep you going and remind you
of how far you've come.


I was more or less saying that I plan to always continue toward mastery, even though I may never reach it since it is not my native tongue. I didn't mean for it to come off so serious. Right now I'm happy where I am with German (though I'm nowhere near fluent) because I feel like I've not only learned so much since I started but I've also learned how to learn languages on my own and the fact that I'm still very interested in it shows me that I will take it as far as I can. Realistically, I'll be satisfied when I can be dropped right into Germany and have absolutely no problem getting around, conversing and expressing myself (as well as reading and writing anything). But even at that point I still plan on increasing my knowledge of the language.
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luke
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 Message 32 of 37
30 April 2014 at 11:10pm | IP Logged 
Gemuse wrote:
 English: when I can write and speak better than 80% of native English speakers.


Congratulations. You have arrived!


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