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| sean kilduff Newbie United Kingdom Joined 3406 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 5 10 August 2015 at 10:29am | IP Logged |
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Hello , I was wondering which of these Celtic languages to study. I am from both these
countries , so that is makey reason for being interested. My language experience so far is anglo saxon/ old English , hebrew and a bit of french. So nothing relevant. If anybody knows which of these languages is more approachable in terms of grammar , pronunciation and familiarity to an English speaker. I would be grateful. Thankyou. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4854 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 2 of 5 10 August 2015 at 12:33pm | IP Logged |
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They are both equally distant from English, so it's really up to you in which one you're more interested. Welsh might be a little bit easier to pronounce, because it doesn't distinguish between velarized ("broad") and palatalized ("slender") consonants, as Irish does.
I like Irish better, but if Welsh is what floats your boat, go for it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6919 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 3 of 5 10 August 2015 at 3:36pm | IP Logged |
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If you want to use the language and happen to live in the area where it is spoken (conversation group/local community/living language/etc.), I'd choose that one. It's just a matter of interest and possible usage.
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| ExRN Groupie United Kingdom Joined 3405 days ago 61 posts - 75 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish Studies: Dutch | Message 4 of 5 14 August 2015 at 1:07am | IP Logged |
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Welsh. It does have some mad grammar rules though. The roots of words change depending what word
proceeds it. Mutations are really confusing. There is some good resources on the BBC website for Welsh. They did a series called the big Welsh challenge where they got celebrities, I use the term loosely, and they made them learn welsh from scratch. They had to do a challenge in Welsh at the end which involved their actual real life skill. Rhod Gilbert had to do a stand up gig in Welsh, some "actress" had to do a scene in pobol y cwm or Rwnd y Rwnd.... One of the two, can't really remember. It was good though. If you venture up to North Wales, at least when I lived there, no one would give you the time of day unless you spoke a bit of Welsh. Immersion up north would not be hard to come by. There are different dialects spoken as well so make sure you pick the most dominant one which is northern. I am a bit biased though as my only experience of Irish is from a fuzzy TV picture that I used to pick up on good days. I did read that Welsh is declining though, so if you learn welsh you can think of yourself as saving a language :-D 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5418 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh | Message 5 of 5 14 August 2015 at 11:45am | IP Logged |
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I only dabbled in Irish but I'd say that Welsh has quite a few pros :
- prononciation is easier - there are still enough Welsh speakers to use the language on a daily basis and in a natural way Of course, if you have even a slight preference for one of the two, I'd say go for it regardless of any other criteria. On a side note, Welsh also benefits from having a great audio course Say Something in Welsh. Edited by akkadboy on 14 August 2015 at 11:58am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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