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ericblair
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01 August 2013 at 7:56am | IP Logged 
1/qid=1153999181/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-0750424-0903068?ie=UTF8&s= books">Langenscheidt Pocket
Grammar - German


This is a re-print of this earlier Cassell's book:

0750424-0903068?ie=UTF8">Cassell's Contemporary German

Does anyone own the Langenscheidt re-print? I was curious as to whether it is exactly
the same or if it features the German orthography reforms that happened between the
publication of the Cassell's original (May of 1993) and the Langenscheidt edition
(1998).

Thanks!
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ericblair
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16 August 2013 at 7:38am | IP Logged 
My Langenscheidt's Pocket Grammar for German arrived a few days ago. I have the French
version in the earlier Cassell's printing version. I have to say I find the
Langenscheidt version much better. It is in that sturdy little yellow binding that is
so well-known. It is also smaller and handier to use. I think the binding is much
better on the Langenscheidt than the Cassell. If I ever wish to get this series for
another language (I believe both are available for Spanish and Italian), I would get
the Langenscheidt.

As for my original question, I am not sure of the answer since I have never studied
German. This is an excerpt from section 68 "The relationship between pronunciation and
spelling" part (vi)

Quote:
The distinction between ss and ß is a particular feature of German in
Germany. In Switzerland and in Austria ss is used throughout.

Both ss and ß are voiceless consonants. You find ß
    after long vowels: die Füße
    if ß is the last latter: der Fuß (foot), der Kuß (kiss)
    if ß stands between a short vowel and t: du mußt (you must)


Remember the following oppositions to help you remember these rules:
Fuß foot - Füße feet - Flüsse rivers
Maß measure - Maße measures - messen to measure - Masse
volume


Can anyone who is either a native speaker, or who is more familiar with the language,
tell me if that seems indicative of the "new" German spelling, or if it is clearly pre-
reform spelling? If the latter, it would be greatly appreciated if you could update the
above or replace it with some handy little tool that could be used as a reference for
the future!

Thanks!

Edited by ericblair on 16 August 2013 at 7:43am

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tractor
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16 August 2013 at 8:22am | IP Logged 
ericblair wrote:
Quote:
The distinction between ss and ß is a particular feature of German in
Germany. In Switzerland and in Austria ss is used throughout.

In Austria they do use the ß.

Edited by tractor on 16 August 2013 at 8:22am

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Cabaire
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16 August 2013 at 10:34am | IP Logged 
Traditional spelling: der Kuß
New spelling: der Kuss
It changed because the vowel is
short.
The booklet presents the traditional rules.
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ericblair
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16 August 2013 at 7:10pm | IP Logged 
Thanks for the clarification! I still like the formatting of the book and it looks like
it will be a solid reference tool.

I'll just need to find a short summary of the new spellings to learn along at the same
time. The wikipedia article doesn't present it all in a very user friendly way, imo.


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