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| materum Newbie United States markmaterum.wordpres Joined 4284 days ago 5 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 1 of 3 19 August 2013 at 7:25pm | IP Logged |
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So I was reading Assimil Spanish with Ease, page 67 Leccion 21 (sorry, can't type accents on this public computer
:( ) and I read something which I have never encountered anywhere else: It is quite common to use the pronoun le in place of the pronoun lo as a direct object, but there is some confusion on this point... The real Academia accepts that the pronoun lo may be used as a direct object referring to persons. Thus we can say either No lo conozco or No le conozco: "I don't know him". At the same time, however, the Academia recommends that speakers avoid this usage as much as possible. Up until just now I have never heard of this, so I did some sniffing around on the great interwebs and found some relevant information. The quotation from Assimil above seems to suggest that le is to be preferred, but preliminary online research suggests that this construction accepted but not standard Spanish, is isolated to Spain, and even then only in certain dialects. I think the websites I found clarified the point sufficiently for me, but so as to ask a relevant question in this room, to what extent does the Assimil Spanish with Ease course have the leismo (which I understand as the replacement of lo with le for male people)? Having only recently begun the course, is this construction mentioned only in passing, will I see it intermittently, or will it be applied rigorously at any and every applicable case? I prefer the use of lo in all cases for the third person singular nonreflexive direct object, and I am concerned that as I progress further in the course it may at times be unclear whether or not a particular sentence is a case of leismo or if the sense of the verb in Spanish necessitates the use of the indirect object even though in English we would use the direct object. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| BlaBla Triglot Groupie Spain Joined 4128 days ago 45 posts - 72 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French Studies: Nepali, Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin | Message 2 of 3 20 August 2013 at 9:22am | IP Logged |
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I'm currently doing the third wave in this book and the author, a Madrileño uses the leismo in the entire
text. It has also been used throughout the older edition "Spanish without toil" (with better explanations on grammar) and you'll find it in the newest edition by the same author, which so far is only available in French as well. Just make sure you have a good grammar book around and you'll be fine. I wholeheartedly recommend a look at the older edition "Spanish without toil". Some folks, including myself prefer it over the new one. Great story and ...loads of Gallian humour :) 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| BlaBla Triglot Groupie Spain Joined 4128 days ago 45 posts - 72 votes Speaks: German*, English, French Studies: Nepali, Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin | Message 3 of 3 20 August 2013 at 10:10am | IP Logged |
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BTW:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=36203&PN=1 Might be worth a look - or two. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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