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| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes  Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 25 of 56 24 March 2010 at 12:42pm | IP Logged |
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I'd go with Turkish.
First, it's not indo-european. Turkish has a very easy grammar and an inert logic that, once you understand it as a European, will fascinate you. It is foreign, but still uses the Latin alphabet (but I have to say, learning the Arabic alphabet is not that hard). Second, Turkey is a politically open, safe country, where you (and your wife, unveiled) can travel without being harassed out of political reasons. It is very easy (and cheap!) to get books, and there is a huge range of contemporary topics. Turkish opens you the door to (without effort) Azeri, Iraqi Turkmen, (with some effort)Turkmen, (with medium effort) Kazakh, Kirgiz, Uzbek, Uyghur, (with A LOT of effort) Chuva, Bashkurt, and some more very very far away Turkic languages. And concerning the vocabulary: Latin and French influenced the Germanic languages' vocabulary (well, at least English and German), but you wouldn't learn Latin or French in order to conquer the Germanic languages/Scandinavia/you name it, would you? Regards :P Ilhan 6 persons have voted this message useful | |
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5848 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 26 of 56 24 March 2010 at 1:17pm | IP Logged |
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I fully agree to what Ilhan says about Turkish. Therefore I can recommend learning Turkish as well. I enjoy very much studying Turkish. There are some French and English words in Turkish and the language has no genders and case irregularities. The proncounciation is strictly phonetic. If you know the pronounciation rules, you can pronounce every unknown Turkish word.
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 27 of 56 24 March 2010 at 3:09pm | IP Logged |
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Turkish is the hardest language I have studied, and it took me a long time to get to the basic/intermediate fluency I have now in the language. The big problem was the structure.
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| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 28 of 56 24 March 2010 at 3:18pm | IP Logged |
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Really?
I always had the impression that, with enough immersion, it'd be a peace of cake! What do you think, understanding the general structure is hard, but once you have it, it's easy? Regards, Ilhan 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5848 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 29 of 56 24 March 2010 at 3:26pm | IP Logged |
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The "ulaç" topic* in Turkish grammar is really difficult, I must admit. It is so, because the Indo-European languages don't have such structures, they use subordinate clauses, while the Turkish language integrates whole clauses into postpositions. I don't have any immersion in Turkish, but I have to study the language from textbooks and audios and I don't underestimate the difficulty of Turkish by saying "It's a peace of cake."
*With this I mean the huge variety of Turkish gerunds! Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 24 March 2010 at 3:31pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 30 of 56 24 March 2010 at 3:28pm | IP Logged |
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Oh I see, well then I guess I underestimated the difficulty of Turkish!
Sorry for that! Regards, Ilhan PS: There are a lot of websites on the internet, where you can watch Turkish dizis, did you know that? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 31 of 56 24 March 2010 at 3:31pm | IP Logged |
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I get a lot of immersion, but dropping certain "Indo-European" structural habits acquired from English and my other L2s was hard. For example, Turkish is an SOV language and you really have to pay attention to where the verb is to get the point of the sentence. Also, identifying the negative particle in the middle of a word took getting used to. Mastering the way Turkish uses participles was hard, and I am still not 100% there.
A lesser problem, but still a problem, has been vocabulary. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 32 of 56 24 March 2010 at 3:34pm | IP Logged |
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Oh I see!
Just a remark on the side, if you guys need some help from native Turkish speakers, I think most of them will love to help you (including me!) Regards, Ilhan 1 person has voted this message useful |
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