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| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5131 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes  Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 49 of 56 05 June 2013 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
Jarel has Turkish listed as his native language on his profile. I think it's a bit unfair to say he's mistaken just because his experience is different than yours. No two native speakers are going to have the same experiences with their language. They may have similar or very different experiences, but they're surely not the same. R. == 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| !LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish | Message 50 of 56 05 June 2013 at 7:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
I am sorry, I must disagree, and I think it hard to believe that you can understand 80% of it. I don't think that is possible for a Turk who has never heard any Uzbek or any other eastern language because they do not sound alike at all. My mother is from Konya and speaks extremely good Turkish (a lot better than I do) and she can't understand 1% of Uzbek. So I think your 80% statement is grossly overestimated. Jarel, I think Almancica will disappear quickly because Turks in Germany speak less and less Turkish. A few words will be kept, the rest will be gone. Cheers, Ilhan 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| za20 Newbie Germany Joined 4198 days ago 35 posts - 64 votes Speaks: English | Message 51 of 56 05 June 2013 at 11:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think, she watched a newscast program in which usually long sentences are used. And she had better watch some Uzbek movies. Maybe, she will need to get used to the Uzbek pronunciations. Here is another link. President Islam Kerimov's Nevruz Speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VKzQIp6Bqc 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jarel Diglot Groupie Turkey Joined 4327 days ago 57 posts - 77 votes Speaks: Turkish*, English Studies: Italian, German | Message 52 of 56 06 June 2013 at 8:22am | IP Logged | |||||
Well previous exposure most certainly matters; also my experience with Uzbek was with conversational Uzbek; rather then clear TV uzbek. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| za20 Newbie Germany Joined 4198 days ago 35 posts - 64 votes Speaks: English | Message 53 of 56 06 June 2013 at 9:28am | IP Logged | |||||
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But I think, conversational daily speech is much clearer than TV speech. Because there is always echo in TV speech and recorded speech, even if sound quality is high. So conversational daily speech is much more understandable than than TV speech and other recorded speech.
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| Po-ru Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5481 days ago 173 posts - 235 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Spanish, Norwegian, Mandarin, French | Message 54 of 56 07 June 2013 at 8:55am | IP Logged | |||||
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Sorry to jump in in the middle of this, but I was happening to know if anyone had or knew of any solid and reliable
Kyrgyz, Turkmen, and Uzbek resources in English? I would one day very much like to tackle one of these languages at some point and would definitely like to start building up some resources at some point, but I am not really sure if anything is really out there for Turkic or Altaic languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 55 of 56 07 June 2013 at 9:09am | IP Logged | |||||
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daristani has put some suggestions for these languages here.
As far as I can tell, Uzbek seems to be the best served of those three languages when it comes to learning material published in English although the material is pretty expensive (i.e. > $80) apart from this kit for beginners. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7145 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 56 of 56 07 June 2013 at 1:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Po-ru:
Re the above link from Chung, I've tried to update either that link or the other links on individual languages cited within it as new materials for the various Turkic languages become available, so I think it is a good place to look for those interested in this language family. I think Chung is right that, of the three languages you cited, Uzbek is better-served than the others in terms of both instructional and reference materials. Since written Uzbek (and some varieties of spoken Uzbek) has discarded vowel harmony, it's arguably a tad easier than the other Turkic languages (although vowel harmony isn't all that much of a problem, and generally seems to be a concern only as one is just getting started.) In addition to this possible advantage, though, there are a lot more Uzbek speakers. But the advantage in terms of materials to learn it with (including some excellent materials you can download for free) is probably the biggest factor, unless you should have a particular interest in or need for one of the "smaller" languages. Edited by daristani on 07 June 2013 at 1:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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