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| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6625 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes  Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 1 of 297 06 December 2012 at 3:49pm | IP Logged |
Welcome to TAC 2013, Team Sakura 桜, the Japanese team. This is our team song. This is the Team thread for organization of the team, discussions, etc. I thought we could also try to collect some of our favorite links here so they’re easy to find. Please post a link to your log when you have one so I can collect them here. Team members: Brun Ugle (B1? reading, A1? other stuff) g-bod (B1) stifa (A2-B1) mrwarper Ziloh Jaseur (B1/B2) dampingwire Woodsei benbassist A1-A2 kujichagulia yuhakko B2 Takato kraemder Quagles Rhadryn fmmarianicolon beginner Roycet (strong in reading/writing, weak in listening/speaking) internetalias (beginner) Summer_Roll Kixi Please let me know if I've forgotten you or if your name or link is wrong. Edited by Brun Ugle on 02 March 2013 at 8:32pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Brun Ugle Diglot Senior Member Norway brunugle.wordpress.c Joined 6625 days ago 1292 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English*, NorwegianC1 Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, Spanish, Finnish | Message 2 of 297 06 December 2012 at 3:50pm | IP Logged |
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I'll try to copy and paste all links here so it won't be necessary to hunt through the whole thread to find them.
Learner's Resources iKnow! - Great for learning new vocabulary (6000 words). It uses a spaced repetition system to drill the vocabulary. Each word is used in a sentence which is both written and spoken. The words are drill in a variety of ways (e.g. spoken Japanese --> English meaning; written Japanese --> English meaning; Kanji -- > pronunciation; fill in the blank; English meaning --> Japanese, etc). You have to pay to use the site, but it's worth it. Read the Kanji – great for practicing kanji readings. You can add material one JLPT level at a time as you wish. Works like an SRS. Level N5 is free; you have to pay for higher levels Reviewing the Kanji – to be used together with the Heisig books. Works as an SRS and saves you from making your own deck. You can also read other people’s stories to get ideas. Free. Rikaichan – add-on for Firefox. Instant dictionary! Just hold your mouse-cursor over any word you don’t know. Works offline too. Just save documents in html format. rikaisama Like Rikaichan, but with the addition of sound. Press F to hear the word pronounced. Sheetz' fab list of audiobooks with transcripts and parallel texts – the list hasn’t been updated for a while, and some links are broken, but in some cases there are even more things available on some of the sites Sheetz has linked to, so just look around. Erin's Challenge – very odd. It’s about a high school girl doing a six-month stay in Japan. Every lesson has several short videos, quizzes and grammar points. What’s weird is the disparity in levels. The language in some of the videos and in the culture quiz is often such that you should probably have studied Japanese for a while before attempting them, however the grammar points are often unbelievably elementary. The advantage is that you can turn on and off multiple subtitles on the videos (Japanese, kana only, romaji, English) and can go through the script one line at a time. Free JLPT Skills. This is a good online source. I mainly use it for vocab, but it has grammar, kanji, and other materials there. http://www.jakka.jp/ Jakka Kanji Drills - literally hundreds of pdfs with drills aimed at helping elementary school students practice their kanji. Sorted by year. A bit hard to navigate but once you get the hang of it it's quite useful for some idle kanji practice! http://www.nhk.or.jp/school/ NHK Schools - experience Japanese elementary school education. A great way to pick up every day vocabulary and learn about Japanese culture the same way that elementary school students do. http://www.nhk.or.jp/kokokoza/NHK 高校講座 - a whole range of programmes covering a Japanese high school syllabus aimed at people distance learning. Lots of advanced vocabulary. I particularly enjoy the Earth Science programmes. Colloquial abbreviations Tae Kim's Grammar Guide Places to buy books & materials amazon.jp not cheap, but they have the best selection. Be sure to order a lot at once to spread out the high shipping costs. White Rabbit carries books, mostly learning materials. Also has other Japanese articles YesAsia Books, DVDs, etc. Not just Japanese. They also have Chinese and Korean. Kinokuniya. A place to buy books. The prices are higher than Amazon.jp's prices, but they don't have the ridiculous shipping fees. If you're not going to buy in bulk, this is probably the site to use. JP Books UK-based online bookstore honto.jp more shipping options than Amazon Dictionaries http://www.jisho.org/ to look up a single word or kanji Alc.co.jp Dictionary. Really good dictionary. It's more useful for technical jargon. Great for looking up a phrase or expression, or when jisho isn't helpful (e.g. if you want to search for particle plus verb). It also has loads of sentences with translations from Hiragana Times, which it searches at the same time, so can be quite useful if you want to quickly look up more usage examples for tricky words and expressions. Some of the English translations can be a little strange, but the Japanese seems OK weblio TV/Movies/Anime/Subtitles Mysoju Movies and dramas. Many Asian languages, not just Japanese. GoodDrama More great dramas and movies. Scripts This site has scripts for some Anime films by Hayao Miyazaki and others. kitsunekko It has many Japanese anime series subtitles Fun Listening (Stories/Radio Plays) Reading Percussion Professional quality recording of Sherlock Holmes stories. (Unfortunately, the translations are not the same as the ones at Aozora, so they aren't quite suited to LR.) Kikudora High quality radio plays based on famous works by classical authors. Kiyo22 High quality audiobooks(stories). Many have links to the story in Aozora so you can read along if you want. Radio/News http://tunein.comTune In Radio - unfortunately a lot of the major radio stations seem to restrict their streams so you can only listen with a Japanese IP address, however there are some Japanese community radio stations which you can listen to via Tune In Radio. Fun stuff to read aozora Books, stories and poems where the copyright is out of date. Parallel Texts Don't be put of by the homepage being in Japanese. Simply click on one of the titles and you will come to a page where you can see the name in English. Then click on the button marked 閲覧する to see the story. Links to other links Nukemarine's Guide A bunch of resources (the thread quickly degenrates into discussion) Buonaparte's Audio and Text links A bunch of useful links and downloads. Someone's worked out how to save FNN news stories, for example Other Stuff Tadoku Bot Tadoku homepage Tadoku is a reading challenge/contest More links to come ....... 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| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4670 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 3 of 297 08 December 2012 at 6:21pm | IP Logged |
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Here's more stuff:
A bunch of resources (the thread quickly degenrates into discussion): http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=5322 A bunch of useful links and downloads. Someone's worked out how to save FNN news storeis, for example: http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=7082 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| stifa Triglot Senior Member Norway lang-8.com/448715 Joined 4878 days ago 629 posts - 813 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Japanese, Spanish | Message 4 of 297 08 December 2012 at 6:35pm | IP Logged |
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I hate Nukemarine's guide... it is all about using pre-made Anki decks...
https://sites.google.com/site/wrightak2/afterrtk12 An alternative RtK deck for someone who might have a decent vocabulary but don't know kanji, or if you want to redo RtK with Japanese keywords instead. http://japaneselevelup.com/ Website with lots of advice - kind of like AJATT through a bullshit filter. I didn't follow his "Start with J-J after 1000 sentences" advice though, because it took way more time than it was worth, and I haven't got all the time in the world anymore. Edited by stifa on 08 December 2012 at 7:04pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5987 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 5 of 297 08 December 2012 at 6:54pm | IP Logged |
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Some resources I have found useful:
NHK Schools - experience Japanese elementary school education. A great way to pick up every day vocabulary and learn about Japanese culture the same way that elementary school students do. http://www.nhk.or.jp/school/ NHK 高校講座 - a whole range of programmes covering a Japanese high school syllabus aimed at people distance learning. Lots of advanced vocabulary. I particularly enjoy the Earth Science programmes. http://www.nhk.or.jp/kokokoza/ Tune In Radio - unfortunately a lot of the major radio stations seem to restrict their streams so you can only listen with a Japanese IP address, however there are some Japanese community radio stations which you can listen to via Tune In Radio. http://tunein.com Jakka Kanji Drills - literally hundreds of pdfs with drills aimed at helping elementary school students practice their kanji. Sorted by year. A bit hard to navigate but once you get the hang of it it's quite useful for some idle kanji practice! http://www.jakka.jp/ Online dictionaries: jisho.org - is my first go to if I want to look up a single word or kanji http://www.jisho.org/ ALC - I use this if I want to look up a phrase or expression, or jisho isn't really giving me what I need (e.g. if you want to search for particle plus verb). It also has loads of sentences with translations from Hiragana Times, which it searches at the same time, so can be quite useful if you want to quickly look up more usage examples for tricky words and expressions. Some of the English translations can be a little strange, however I think you can generally trust the Japanese. http://www.alc.co.jp/ 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| stifa Triglot Senior Member Norway lang-8.com/448715 Joined 4878 days ago 629 posts - 813 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Japanese, Spanish | Message 6 of 297 08 December 2012 at 7:07pm | IP Logged |
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A nice Japanese monolingual dictionary:
http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/ (Don't let the "yahoo" part put you off.) And how to use it: http://japaneselevelup.com/2012/01/06/the-j-e-to-j-j-diction ary-leap-of-faith-1- escape- from-comfort/ This is a series of four articles that teaches you hwo to use it. Edited by stifa on 08 December 2012 at 7:11pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5987 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 7 of 297 08 December 2012 at 7:10pm | IP Logged |
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Comprehensible Input:
The Ultimate J-Drama Guide - an amazing attempt to try and grade a huge list of J Drama by difficulty. Great way of searching for ideas of things to watch. http://japaneselevelup.com/category/maps/ultimate-j-drama/ Anime recommendations Azumanga Daioh is quite a straightforward watch. It became comprehensible to me long before other things. Manga recommendations よつばと I wonder if it's a coincidence that this was written by the same person who wrote the manga for Azumanga Daioh. Well, Azumnaga Daioh is not quite such a straight forward read due to the format and the lack of furigana, but よつばと is probably the best place to start for reading manga. It's much easier than anything else I've tried to read, plus it's cute and fun at the same time. Childrens book recommendations Gakken publish a range of graded readers for elementary school students, graded by year. Ones I have read include the following: なぜ？どうして？かがくのお話 なぜ？どうして？みぢかなぎもん １０分で読めるお話 １０分で読める伝記 I think the なぜ？どうして？ books in particular are quite a good place to start, because they are answering childish questions about science and daily life in quite simple language. Chances are you already know the answer to the question, which makes it much easier to pick up the vocabulary used to give that answer in Japanese. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5987 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 8 of 297 08 December 2012 at 7:25pm | IP Logged |
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Where to buy materials:
I started a thread here which includes Japanese bookstores I have personally visited in Europe! I guess amazon.co.jp is an obvious choice for online shopping, although the shipping costs are ridiculous. I tend to order in bulk, and even sometimes go in with a friend to spread the shipping cost pain. I also buy a lot of my study materials now from JP Books, although I'm not sure if this would work if you are not in the UK. Another option could be honto.jp - they offer more options for shipping than Amazon so it may be possible to choose something more economical. I have friends who used bk1, but I don't know anyone who has used it since it became part of honto.jp - although I might try it at some point in the coming year. Yes Asia also sell Japanese books, which could be a cheaper option for shipping, but the search system is kind of tricky. You have to romanise the title/author and you can't search for ISBNs 1 person has voted this message useful |
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