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Luso Hexaglot Senior Member Portugal Joined 6066 days ago 819 posts - 1812 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, French, EnglishC2, GermanB1, Italian, Spanish Studies: Sanskrit, Arabic (classical)
| Message 137 of 168 22 January 2013 at 2:32am | IP Logged |
Zireael wrote:
Is it possible to join? Do you have any requirements? I've started learning Arabic and could use some input... |
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Yes, you may join us. Welcome aboard. You may go to the sign-up thread and communicate your log's link (I've seen you have one) to Brun Ugle. She'll add you to the global list. Then, Johanna will add you to our team's list.
As far as requirements are concerned: work in order to learn your target languages, support your teammates, and I usually add "have fun". It's helpful and recommended to keep your log updated. I hope I'm not forgetting anything important. I don't think so, though.
@ Johanna: Normally, the welcoming part is up to you. I didn't want to leave Zireael hanging, so I stepped in. Please add her to our team's list when you have the chance. Thanks
Edited by Luso on 22 January 2013 at 2:36am
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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4656 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 138 of 168 22 January 2013 at 9:58am | IP Logged |
I sent Brun Ugle a link to my log a few days back, and I should be in the global list.
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| JohannaNYC Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4457 days ago 251 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, Italian Studies: Croatian, Serbian, Arabic (Egyptian)
| Message 139 of 168 23 January 2013 at 2:36am | IP Logged |
Welcome to the team Zireael!! I look forward to reading your blog and comparing notes on
the differences between Egyptian and Yemeni Arabic.
Luso, no problem. We're all in this team together, I just take care of the clerical work
:) When I don't log in for a few days it means I'm studying a lot to make up for slacking
off somewhere along the way.
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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4656 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 140 of 168 23 January 2013 at 1:38pm | IP Logged |
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Welcome to the team Zireael!! I look forward to reading your blog and comparing notes on
the differences between Egyptian and Yemeni Arabic. |
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Well, I'm not sure if it's Yemeni Arabic. Wikipedia tells me Yemeni Arabic speakers pronounce the letter jim as /ʀ/ (French R) and and qaf as /g/, while Sarah pronounces jim as /dʒ/ and qaf as /q/. It's not Adeni dialect either, since there's no substitution of dental fricatives for dental plosives (/θ/ doesn't become /t/).
On the other hand, she does use mā for "what".
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| Takato Tetraglot Senior Member HungaryRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5053 days ago 249 posts - 276 votes Speaks: Hungarian*, EnglishB2, GermanB2, Japanese
| Message 141 of 168 23 January 2013 at 9:29pm | IP Logged |
Hi! I'm preparing for the Computer Architectures I. exam on 29.01 so please don't expect too much from me meanwhile.
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| Hendrek Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4887 days ago 152 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Persian
| Message 142 of 168 25 January 2013 at 8:24pm | IP Logged |
Hi Team Alef, here's a random sort of collection of potential resources or even just
ways to find more resources for languages. Let me know if anything is useful,
especially if you find anything helpful in Persian that I've missed :)
A dictionary of commonly used words, split into categories and in multiple languages
(has arabic, but no persian, though other parts of the site do):
dicts.info
Very strange (quasi-religious) dictionary, but with extensive CSV text (can easily be
imported into Anki) with many vocab words for several languages (again: arabic, but no
persian): dictionarydictionary.com
Persian search engine: iranmehr.com
For later in one's studies... perhaps Elan & spouse or our godparent Jappy58 could
check this one out and see if there are any useful resources for beginner/intermediate
students (especially LR, or texts with pronunciation guides). These are language
teaching resources for Persian to foreigners:
persian-language.org
Just an interesting sight dedicated to recording and documenting all languages of the
world. Here's the Iran page:
everytongue.com
Here's a program that can do word frequency lists (for roman characters, but should
support Turkish for example). I've tossed around the idea of running something like
this on an LR text for focused vocab study prior to an LR session to help things sink
in faster: word frequency counter
Finally, the really cool site where I found all of that stuff. It's a web directory
project, actually trying to find, gather, and link the web in an open-source, crowd-
managed directory. Search engines often lose sites that don't meet their algorithm
standards, but this can help preserve access to some interesting ones. The link points
to the languages portion, but it includes all topics:
DMOZ.org
Edited by Hendrek on 25 January 2013 at 8:31pm
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| Jappy58 Bilingual Super Polyglot Senior Member United States Joined 4643 days ago 200 posts - 413 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Guarani*, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Maghribi), Arabic (Written), French, English, Persian, Quechua, Portuguese Studies: Modern Hebrew
| Message 143 of 168 26 January 2013 at 12:27am | IP Logged |
Zireael wrote:
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Welcome to the team Zireael!! I look forward to reading your blog and comparing notes on
the differences between Egyptian and Yemeni Arabic. |
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Well, I'm not sure if it's Yemeni Arabic. Wikipedia tells me Yemeni Arabic speakers pronounce the letter jim as /ʀ/ (French R) and and qaf as /g/, while Sarah pronounces jim as /dʒ/ and qaf as /q/. It's not Adeni dialect either, since there's no substitution of dental fricatives for dental plosives (/θ/ doesn't become /t/).
On the other hand, she does use mā for "what". |
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Yemen is unique in that there is a remarkable diversity in dialects throughout the country. While all Arab countries foster different sub-dialects, it can be argued that Yemen is even more unique. This means that the dialect your friend speaks is indeed likely Yemeni Arabic - it'd just be a matter of determining which one (as you were trying to rule out Adeni). Generally, they are still all closely related to one another.
Edited by Jappy58 on 26 January 2013 at 12:28am
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| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4656 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 144 of 168 26 January 2013 at 2:14pm | IP Logged |
Thanks, Jappy. As I'm focusing more on writing Arabic than speaking, should I change the entry to Arabic (Written), maybe? Simply, after Sarah finishes this university year, all contact with the language will be via e-mails and FB...
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