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| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4666 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 9 of 17 08 March 2013 at 4:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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@g-bod, thanks for the recommendations: I'll try to go when next I'm in London. Basic
Kanji seems to be up on scribd, so I'll probably have a look there sometime soon. My tutor's lent me Nihongo Challenge (Kanji), which covers N4 and N5 kanji vocabulary. So right now I'm working through that and adding the relevant ones to Anki. As for my original issue, I've found a solution. Kanjidic (at Monash Uni in Australia) is an electronic listing of > 6000 kanji. Each entry includes the kanji, various readings, unicode and the JLPT level (the old 1-4 levels). So I started with a cumulative N5/N4 vocab list, parsed that with ruby script and had the script check each kanji against the JLPT level. So now I have three sets of listings: words that use only N5/N4 kanji (and kana), words that have at least one N5/N4 kanji plus at least one beyond N4 and words that use only N3+ kanji. Once I'm done with Nihongo Challenge (I'm guessing another five hours of reading based on how long it took to get as far as I am so far), then I'll modify the script to find all the vocabulary that I don't already have in my Anki Kanji deck and produce a file ready for import. The nice thing about the Nihongo Challenge distraction is that I've completed mining the N5 section for vocabulary and it's only taken ~2h30m and I recognised 80+% of the vocabulary. I'm hoping that's a good sign. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| buchstabe Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4703 days ago 52 posts - 108 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: Czech, Swedish, Japanese | Message 10 of 17 11 May 2013 at 1:01am | IP Logged | ||
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I like this page a lot - http://kanjidamage.com/ and I'm using it together with the Tuttle
flashcards. Edited by buchstabe on 11 May 2013 at 1:01am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4666 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 11 of 17 12 May 2013 at 11:20am | IP Logged | ||
It looks like a nice page. However I was looking for something to help me decide which of the N5+N4 vocabs I should learn as kanji and within the first 30 entries there are at least two kanji not in the 常用 list :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| pandorabrooks Newbie Japan Joined 6207 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Studies: Spanish Studies: Japanese, French | Message 12 of 17 24 May 2013 at 7:42am | IP Logged | ||
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I learned early that just memorizing the on/jun yomi of kanji did not help me most of the time to read the kanji when it was in a word. When kanjis are paired together they can be read by thier on/on reading or their kun/kun reading or can have unusual readings. The best way to learn kanji is to learn to read words. If you can read a word then you know the kanji. Most books will give you sample words for each kanji that are difficult for N5. I only used the Unicorm Preparatory Course books (not cheap but really good) and they were enough to get all the pratice I needed. I also got a chart (JLPT Wall Chart) that had all the vocabulary and kanji for N5. The vocab section only used N5 or N4 kanji depending which chart you get. Keep practicing reading words instead of just kanji. Even if the reading is not for N5, we will need to know it to pass the higher levels. Good luck 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| pandorabrooks Newbie Japan Joined 6207 days ago 9 posts - 10 votes Studies: Spanish Studies: Japanese, French | Message 13 of 17 24 May 2013 at 7:44am | IP Logged | ||
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I forgot to ask, do you know any good source for easy listening. I am using Unicorn for N4 but need something non JLPT related that is easy enough.
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| Soggycakes Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4578 days ago 7 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Thai, Vietnamese, Russian, Mandarin, Cantonese, French | Message 14 of 17 24 May 2013 at 8:12am | IP Logged | ||
Probably this: http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ Edit: Or something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2SpoNVH8ks Edited by Soggycakes on 24 May 2013 at 8:44am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4666 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 15 of 17 24 May 2013 at 11:39am | IP Logged | ||
I completely agree, and this is exactly what I'm doing. I'm not learning readings, with the exception of a very few kanji that only have one reading listed (such as 洋 which only has the reading よう and 服 which only has the reading ふく, which handily helps me to remember 洋服). What I was trying to do is minimise my workload. For N4 I need to master at least 1500 or so words, most of which can be written with kanji. However, since N4 only requires a knowlegde of 300 kanji or so, I can ignore (for now ...) those words that include kanji from beyond N4. As an example, the first kanji in 講堂 is listed as N2, so I don't need to know that right now. I might know the word anyway, but I don't want to keep testing myself on it leading up to the exam in July when I could be using the time to polish my grammar or my listening. I also want to ignore things that are almost always written in kana, such as 其れ. By knocking all of those out, I'm reducing my workload of kanji words to about 600 or so, which saves a chunk of unnecessary revision. Obviously I'll need to come back and learn those words sometime, but right now I want to focus on the things that are most likely to crop up on the exam. I think it's working as the one past paper I've tried seems to have gone quite well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| baskerville Trilingual Triglot Newbie Singapore scribeorigins.com Joined 4247 days ago 39 posts - 43 votes Speaks: English*, Tagalog* Studies: German*, Japanese Studies: Hungarian | Message 16 of 17 05 June 2013 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | ||
They have different topics and the speaker has a very soothing voice and speaks a little slower than in most podcasts :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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