NewLanguageGuy Groupie France youtube.com/NewLangu Joined 4608 days ago 74 posts - 134 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 6 31 May 2013 at 1:49pm | IP Logged |
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Sengo Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4352 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2
| Message 2 of 6 31 May 2013 at 8:17pm | IP Logged |
Well done! There are some mistakes but I'm sure you will progress if you keep up like this. You speak clearly and I
didn't have a hard time understanding you! :)
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 3 of 6 03 June 2013 at 10:11am | IP Logged |
Coda -r is very strong, and the occasional French r mixed with the thick English r makes
for a very funny accent (the sentence rhythm is also a bit weird), but it's fully
understandable and comes across as being Dutch.
Coda -r is often not pronounced as strongly as in English (it doesn't really drop as in
German either, though). Pay attention to that because that is the single largest giveaway
of an English accent; the best solution is to just pronounce it as in French. (will make
you sound like a Limbourgian I guess).
Sometimes you betray having learned French (léraar, not leráar).
Edited by tarvos on 03 June 2013 at 10:12am
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NewLanguageGuy Groupie France youtube.com/NewLangu Joined 4608 days ago 74 posts - 134 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 4 of 6 03 June 2013 at 5:23pm | IP Logged |
Thank you for your comments, guys, very helpful.
Edited by NewLanguageGuy on 03 June 2013 at 5:29pm
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 5 of 6 04 June 2013 at 8:15am | IP Logged |
Yeah, your Dutch is very understandable actually. I think the biggest problem you have is
that it occasionally doesn't sound idiomatic, I already mentioned a couple minor things
about the pronunciation, and I noticed one or two gender mistakes (happens to everybody).
Cardinal rule of Dutch stress is that it falls on the first syllable. Exceptions are:
- words of foreign (usually Latinate or French origin) may have stress differently:
communicátie, informátie, relátie, statión, centráal (but céntrum), garáge)
- non-separable prefixes (i.e. a prefix not part of the root of the word, such as be-) is
never stressed) begríjpen, but méenemen (ik neem mee vs ik begrijp)
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calduche Bilingual Tetraglot Newbie Austria Joined 5117 days ago 9 posts - 16 votes Speaks: French*, English*, GermanC2, Dutch Studies: Portuguese, Swahili
| Message 6 of 6 11 June 2013 at 8:42pm | IP Logged |
tarvos wrote:
Cardinal rule of Dutch stress is that it falls on the first syllable. Exceptions are:
- words of foreign (usually Latinate or French origin) may have stress differently:
communicátie, informátie, relátie, statión, centráal (but céntrum), garáge)
- non-separable prefixes (i.e. a prefix not part of the root of the word, such as be-) is
never stressed) begríjpen, but méenemen (ik neem mee vs ik begrijp)
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Dutch isn't as rigid as German on that matter, and you can find other exceptions that don't fall into either category, such as vriendin or even Amsterdam. The accent is on the final syllable of these words of Dutch origin, which don't have a prefix.
Still I agree with you, the accent will almost always be on the last syllable, and nous les français sometimes have difficulties to get it right!
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