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NewLanguageGuy
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31 May 2013 at 1:49pm | IP Logged 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv26fRns0vw

Comments welcome. Thanks :D
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31 May 2013 at 8:17pm | IP Logged 
Well done! There are some mistakes but I'm sure you will progress if you keep up like this. You speak clearly and I
didn't have a hard time understanding you! :)
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03 June 2013 at 10:11am | IP Logged 
Coda -r is very strong, and the occasional French r mixed with the thick English r makes
for a very funny accent (the sentence rhythm is also a bit weird), but it's fully
understandable and comes across as being Dutch.

Coda -r is often not pronounced as strongly as in English (it doesn't really drop as in
German either, though). Pay attention to that because that is the single largest giveaway
of an English accent; the best solution is to just pronounce it as in French. (will make
you sound like a Limbourgian I guess).

Sometimes you betray having learned French (léraar, not leráar).

Edited by tarvos on 03 June 2013 at 10:12am

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03 June 2013 at 5:23pm | IP Logged 
Thank you for your comments, guys, very helpful.

Edited by NewLanguageGuy on 03 June 2013 at 5:29pm

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tarvos
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04 June 2013 at 8:15am | IP Logged 
Yeah, your Dutch is very understandable actually. I think the biggest problem you have is
that it occasionally doesn't sound idiomatic, I already mentioned a couple minor things
about the pronunciation, and I noticed one or two gender mistakes (happens to everybody).

Cardinal rule of Dutch stress is that it falls on the first syllable. Exceptions are:

- words of foreign (usually Latinate or French origin) may have stress differently:
communicátie, informátie, relátie, statión, centráal (but céntrum), garáge)
- non-separable prefixes (i.e. a prefix not part of the root of the word, such as be-) is
never stressed) begríjpen, but méenemen (ik neem mee vs ik begrijp)

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11 June 2013 at 8:42pm | IP Logged 
tarvos wrote:

Cardinal rule of Dutch stress is that it falls on the first syllable. Exceptions are:

- words of foreign (usually Latinate or French origin) may have stress differently:
communicátie, informátie, relátie, statión, centráal (but céntrum), garáge)
- non-separable prefixes (i.e. a prefix not part of the root of the word, such as be-) is
never stressed) begríjpen, but méenemen (ik neem mee vs ik begrijp)


Dutch isn't as rigid as German on that matter, and you can find other exceptions that don't fall into either category, such as vriendin or even Amsterdam. The accent is on the final syllable of these words of Dutch origin, which don't have a prefix.
Still I agree with you, the accent will almost always be on the last syllable, and nous les français sometimes have difficulties to get it right!


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