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| decamillisjacob Newbie Canada Joined 4733 days ago 38 posts - 63 votes  | Message 33 of 35 09 July 2012 at 12:26am | IP Logged |
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It depends on what you hope to achieve with your Persian studies. You can very easily acquire Persian (Farsi, Tajik, Dari) without formally studying Arabic if you are learning conversational Persian. However, to read literary Persian---especially within the context of classical poetry, manuscripts, Islamic literature etc---a solid foundation in literary Arabic would definitely make your life a lot easier; most definitely so in terms of providing you a Islamic cultural foundation embedded in the language.
On a second note, Iranian Persian in particular has increasingly become ever more Arabized since the revolution during the 70s and 80s and I believe Arabic is a mandatory subject of study in the Iranian education system. Iranians use a lot of Arabic vocabulary in their everyday Farsi even though there are Persian equivalents for words. Legal vocabulary and technical vocabulary as well draws heavily from Modern Arabic and moreso Classical Arabic via the Islamic Golden Age. It may also depend on which Persian you're learning as well. Tajik Persian has a large Russian and Turkic overtone in it. Afghan Persian has minged with Russian as well, Classical Arabic, Turkmen, Pashto, Punjabi, and Urdu. Iranian Persian has a lot of French and Russian borrowings in it coupled with a heavy overtone of Modern Arabic. Edited by decamillisjacob on 10 July 2012 at 6:18pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Darya0Khoshki Triglot Groupie United States Joined 5069 days ago 71 posts - 91 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Iraqi) Studies: Persian | Message 34 of 35 06 May 2013 at 1:18pm | IP Logged |
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I was wondering if someone could give me feedback about my Farsi. It is just a short recording, but I'd love your honest opinion or advice about my pronunciation / accent / grammar, etc. I've been teaching myself off and on for a couple of years, but I still consider myself something of a beginner since I haven't been consistantly studying. Thank you so much for your help, and let me know if there is anything I can do to help you with English. (The recording goes into Iraqi Arabic in the middle, just so you know!)
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 35 of 35 07 May 2013 at 11:31am | IP Logged |
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As with any language that has borrowed swathes of vocabulary - it is nice to know that
source language, but eventually, Persian and Arabic are two entities of their own (and Arabic is one damn Hydra of an entity). Will knowing Arabic help? Yes. Should you study Arabic before you learn Persian? No, not at all. It's like learning French before Spanish just because French will help you with all the new words. You might as well just learn Spanish. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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