William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6270 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 9 of 20 03 October 2010 at 5:27pm | IP Logged |
Dictionaries, if they mention swear words and so on at all, don't always give clear guidance to their use. It is probably a good idea to be able to recognise such words but to avoid using them.
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Old Chemist Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5171 days ago 227 posts - 285 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 10 of 20 03 October 2010 at 5:41pm | IP Logged |
William Camden wrote:
Dictionaries, if they mention swear words and so on at all, don't always give clear guidance to their use. It is probably a good idea to be able to recognise such words but to avoid using them. |
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Absolutely. I have said elsewhere that I used various words I considered only rough slang - though swear words - and it got me into trouble. On a trivial point, I notice you speak Turkish. Is it true that "Erm," as pronounced in English as a hesitation has a rather personal meaning in Turkish?!
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6270 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 11 of 20 05 October 2010 at 1:26pm | IP Logged |
Old Chemist wrote:
William Camden wrote:
Dictionaries, if they mention swear words and so on at all, don't always give clear guidance to their use. It is probably a good idea to be able to recognise such words but to avoid using them. |
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Absolutely. I have said elsewhere that I used various words I considered only rough slang - though swear words - and it got me into trouble. On a trivial point, I notice you speak Turkish. Is it true that "Erm," as pronounced in English as a hesitation has a rather personal meaning in Turkish?! |
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Yes, that is an obscenity, though I have never heard it actually used by Turkish speakers. I think if you throw such words about, your prestige is likely to plummet.
In Midnight Express, Billy Hayes gives phonetically spelled versions of Turkish phrases he heard during five years of incarceration, some of them obscene. One he spells as omine koydum. Of course, Hayes was hanging out with mafiosi, as opposed to the Turkish Language Association.
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vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6958 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 12 of 20 05 October 2010 at 4:16pm | IP Logged |
In Italian when we say that somebody something is "Figa" or "Figo" if is masculine means somebody is nice , attractive, excellent and "figa" means pussy, c**t...
In UK "c**t" is somebody not very nice.
At the opposite everything that comes from "cazzo" (prick) is a bad thing or a bad person like "cazzata" or "cazzone" etc .
the only exception is "cazzuto" that means a strong willed man
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getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5469 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch
| Message 13 of 20 09 October 2010 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
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Can anyone tell me about the Spanish word "bendigo?" I have heard it in a lot of films - if I have spelt it correctly - but I have not been able to find out exactly what the English equivalent is. |
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You might have misheard 'bendito', which is the masculine for the adjective for 'blessed'. 'Bendito' is sometimes used in Spanish as an ironic, tongue-in-cheek or mild form of 'maldito' (damned), which is basically like using 'f*cking' as an adjective in English. For example, 'el bendito ingeniero ya me tiene harto' (roughly 'the good engineer is driving me up the wall'), where the real meaning of 'bendito' is exactly the opposite.
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fireflies Senior Member Joined 5179 days ago 172 posts - 234 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 14 of 20 12 October 2010 at 1:36am | IP Logged |
getreallanguage wrote:
Old Chemist wrote:
Can anyone tell me about the Spanish word "bendigo?" I have heard it in a lot of films - if I have spelt it correctly - but I have not been able to find out exactly what the English equivalent is. |
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You might have misheard 'bendito', which is the masculine for the adjective for 'blessed'. 'Bendito' is sometimes used in Spanish as an ironic, tongue-in-cheek or mild form of 'maldito' (damned), which is basically like using 'f*cking' as an adjective in English. For example, 'el bendito ingeniero ya me tiene harto' (roughly 'the good engineer is driving me up the wall'), where the real meaning of 'bendito' is exactly the opposite. |
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Pendejo sort of sounds like bendigo too but that seems less likely to be mistaken for bendigo.
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Deji Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5438 days ago 116 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Hindi, Bengali
| Message 15 of 20 12 October 2010 at 5:55am | IP Logged |
In Hindi or Bengali DON'T call someone a "sala". Literally it means "brother-in-law". In common street use it is a lot
worse than "god-damned son of a bitch". Now how this got the meaning that it has--as a videshi, I leave it to a
deshi to explain-- or theorize about.
One of my favorites (basically because I like owls) is "Ullu ka bachha"--"son of an owl". That means a very
stupid person.
Interesting that we assume owls are wise and they assume they are stupid.
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Old Chemist Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5171 days ago 227 posts - 285 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 16 of 20 12 October 2010 at 9:17am | IP Logged |
Thanks for all your fascinating and informative posts! The remark about the Turkish obscenity comes from a BBC documentary where an English teacher caused howls of laughter everytime he hesitated using that sound. I thought, from what was said, it was a fairly inocuous word. The BBC obviously got it wrong.
Edited by Old Chemist on 12 October 2010 at 9:56am
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