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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4888 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 1 of 6 24 October 2012 at 1:33am | IP Logged | |||||
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I listened to the sound clip of the first lesson for Arabe Perfectionnement, and it is infinitely more pleasant sounding than the first L'Arabe.
Has anyone tried it yet? There's a lack of enjoyable Arabic resources out there, and a good Assimil product would stempt me to give it another shot - even if I had to suffer through L`Arabe first. side note: I wrote to Assimil and asked if they planned on updating the recordings for L'Arabe; I'll post any response I get. side note 2: I saw laoshu505000's 'review' on Youtube, but all he does is talk about the packaging (for five minutes!), design, and layout. Edited by kanewai on 24 October 2012 at 1:44am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
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The layout is indeed outstanding, but the book is great as well. I didn't know there were problems with L'Arabe's audio. What I know is that Assimil tries to teach MSA while gives insights into dialects. Perfectionnement seems to cover dialects more often because the further you go the more you get into details and regional varieties, obviously. Lessons are also more related to daily usage (like one on "On a coupé l'eau").
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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4888 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 3 of 6 24 October 2012 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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That's nice to hear!
The problems that I (and a lot of others) had with L'Arabe's audio has to do with the painfully unnatural way the actors speak, particularly one of the women. If I tackled the course again I would just use the book and not the recordings. - Assimil responded to my FB post; they have no plans to redo the recordings. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5165 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 4 of 6 24 October 2012 at 9:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Have you tried checking the first Assimil version for Arabic, the one that comes in two tomes? The quality of the printed script is awful, but maybe the recordings are better.
I don't know, a metalanguage such as MSA which isn't spoken anywhere like this isn't likely to sound natural. Anyway, I hope I won't feel discouraged to use L'Arabe because I'm glad there is the Perfectionnement one. I also got Parler l'arabe en 90 leçons (from Méthode 90) and it seems quite good). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| morinkhuur Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 4676 days ago 79 posts - 157 votes Speaks: German*, Latin, English Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Maghribi) | Message 5 of 6 25 October 2012 at 2:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
Metalanguage is the kind of language used when talking about language itself. You probably meant macrolanguage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalanguage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrolanguage 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Talib Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6660 days ago 171 posts - 205 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (classical) Studies: Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 6 of 6 15 April 2013 at 7:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
I agree the recording sounds good. Even if that course doesn't have a ton of news specific vocabulary, the way they are speaking would be a good introduction to the way people talk on BBC Arabic. After finishing the course, you could skip level 1 of FSI Arabic and go straight to level 2. Level 2 isn't the best course in the world, but it is really far better than level 1 and has a lot of news specific vocabulary.
Doing it without the recordings should be fine since Arabic has a phonetic alphabet. Actually I would go as far as to recommend doing it without the recordings under the condition that you already know how to pronounce the letters. Also it should have diacritical marks that indicate the vowels. Otherwise, you'll have to spend a lot of time looking up each word just to get the vowels right. Edited by Talib on 15 April 2013 at 7:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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