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| berabero89 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4641 days ago 101 posts - 137 votes  Speaks: English, Amharic* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, French | Message 1 of 10 13 April 2013 at 1:56am | IP Logged | |||||
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By postponing my plan to study German and/or Dutch by 2 or so years, I've decided to
instead study Greek, a language that my father learned when he was younger. This would give me the opportunity to immediately practice the language (even though it isn't with a native speaker). This isn't the only reason for my wanting to study it but, it is a main one. I am not familiar with many resources for Greek, which is certainly not as popular as languages like Spanish, German and French in the United States. My "go-to" method is Assimil, but they don't publish their Greek course in English. If I were to finish New French with Ease (which I'm in the middle of), would I be able to understand a typical "with Ease" course in French? If not, could I after the completion of Using French? (note, technical vocabulary seems to be shared between English and French, so I don't think that would pose too big a problem, would it?). Also, what are your experiences with the actual quality and content of the course? I've read wildly differing opinions on French Amazon. Sorry for the long post and thank you for your help! Edited by berabero89 on 13 April 2013 at 1:58am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Paco Senior Member Hong Kong Joined 4276 days ago 145 posts - 251 votes Speaks: Cantonese* | Message 2 of 10 13 April 2013 at 2:33am | IP Logged | |||||
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If you want to learn Greek now, go straight to it. English resources will do the job.
You will certainly have access to more resources if you speak French or German, but it is not necessary. If you would hold off your German for Greek, you will not want to hold off your Greek for French. And I think you should better avoid using a language as the instructional language until you have "mastered" it. Edited by Paco on 13 April 2013 at 2:42am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6228 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 3 of 10 13 April 2013 at 7:28am | IP Logged | |||||
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Check out "Greek by Radio". It is available free over the internet and is a fantastic introduction to the language.
From there you could easily make the transition to the Assimil Greek. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| berabero89 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4641 days ago 101 posts - 137 votes Speaks: English, Amharic* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, French | Message 4 of 10 13 April 2013 at 8:38am | IP Logged | |||||
Actually, I wouldn't mind waiting because I honestly won't have enough time to take on another language for a while, although if I did, I would have done as you suggested and dived straight into whatever I could find. As for using French as an instructional language, I've actually heard that it can strengthen your L2 to use it to learn an L3 (this is hearsay, so I can't back it up, I'm sure you speak from your own experience).
Thank you for the recommendation, I just got through the first lesson and I'll be sure to continue using it. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Paco Senior Member Hong Kong Joined 4276 days ago 145 posts - 251 votes Speaks: Cantonese* | Message 5 of 10 13 April 2013 at 11:52am | IP Logged | |||||
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I should have made myself clearer. Please excuse me for that.
I mean you have to make sure you understand the explanation and translation. If your L2 is not advanced enough, you may happen to see words in the L2 that you do not understand, which will not facilitate the process. I think you may sample the Assimi to see if your French is up to that level. As for the benefit of using L2, I believe it is true. It is similar to the approach in the "comparative mental framework" of language learning suggested by Prof Arguelles, namely you consciously compare different languages to facilitate understanding and memorisation; only this time you use it to learn another. As you have the ability to study multiple languages simultaneously, as long as you can think in French and understand the translation, you can succeed. Edited by Paco on 13 April 2013 at 11:55am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| flydream777 Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6490 days ago 77 posts - 102 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: German, Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin, Greek, Hungarian, Armenian, Irish, Italian | Message 6 of 10 13 April 2013 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Le Nouveau Grec Sans Peine course is pretty dense... Your French should be pretty good before you try it.
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| berabero89 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4641 days ago 101 posts - 137 votes Speaks: English, Amharic* Studies: Spanish, Japanese, French | Message 7 of 10 13 April 2013 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
All right, thank you for the feedback! Now my problem is, once I'm done with Greek by Radio, what materials should I move on to? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| embici Triglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4609 days ago 263 posts - 370 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek | Message 8 of 10 14 April 2013 at 2:00am | IP Logged | |||||
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I've been studying Greek for about a year now. I've never tried Greek by Radio simply
because I don't want to be tied to my computer and I haven't figured out how to download the audio and text. Many people say it is quite good. I agree that you need a fairly good command of French for Le nouveau grec sans peine. It is fairly dense and there are a lot of grammatical terms used that I had never heard before in English or French. The dialogues are not that entertaining, either. I'm glad I didn't start my Greek studies with it. I liked the Michel Thomas Greek. Teach Yourself Greek is not bad either. Spoken World Greek seemed excellent when I borrowed it from the library. I've not tried Pimsleur. There are many free resources that are good to supplement your studies. I highly recommend the Language Transfer project. In fact, you could start with it and then move on to Assimil. Language Transfer really helps you understand Greek grammar. If you have a good dictionary and want to give Greek-only materials a go you can try Ελληνικά με την παρέα μου 1 There is also a list of resources on the language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34563&PN=1&TPN=5">Tea m Sparta thread. Good luck! 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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