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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 17 of 21 15 April 2013 at 10:55am | IP Logged |
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The (alveolar) tapped r sound is the r sound in Spanish "pero" or the Scottish
pronunciation of the letter r in "girl" or "breath". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| mike245 Triglot Senior Member Hong Kong Joined 6971 days ago 303 posts - 408 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Cantonese Studies: French, German, Mandarin, Khmer | Message 18 of 21 15 April 2013 at 11:22am | IP Logged |
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That's good to know. Do you happen to know if there are also official terms for the
rolled "r" in Spanish and the "r" sound in Mandarin? I think that the "r" has got to be one of the biggest pronunciation stumbling blocks for many people learning foreign languages! Edited by mike245 on 15 April 2013 at 11:27am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 19 of 21 15 April 2013 at 1:07pm | IP Logged |
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Rolled r in Spanish is an alveolar trill. (as opposed to an alveolar tap). Usually,
trills and taps are used in some sort of mix and are allophonic, in Spanish they contrast. For example in Dutch you can speak with either "r" sound and it's all considered the same (even though the rolled r is basically held on to for much longer). I am not familiar with Mandarin phonology. Edited by tarvos on 15 April 2013 at 1:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Przemek Hexaglot Senior Member Poland multigato.blogspot.c Joined 6474 days ago 107 posts - 174 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, SpanishC2, Italian, Portuguese, French Studies: Turkish, Hindi, Arabic (Written) | Message 20 of 21 16 April 2013 at 1:58pm | IP Logged |
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I would recommend FSI Course as it has extensive written and recorded material, so you
can thoroughly drill reading and speaking. And there are some writing exercises too. And it's available for free. Contrary to what others say basing on their experiences, I always try to speak in French while in France and I always met with an encouraging reception. But... I always said that I learn French and that I expect their help in practicing. It seems such an approach always works. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| baskerville Trilingual Triglot Newbie Singapore scribeorigins.com Joined 4245 days ago 39 posts - 43 votes Speaks: English*, Tagalog* Studies: German*, Japanese Studies: Hungarian | Message 21 of 21 17 April 2013 at 7:23am | IP Logged |
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I myself am a Assimil beginner, having started it only this month. And yeah, the
pronunciation is really hard. I did not have similar difficulties when I was studying German or Japanese because I found the pronunciation more consistent. But I appreciate that the audio tracks are quite slow so I can concentrate on saying the words correctly. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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