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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 9 of 13 20 April 2013 at 4:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here's what I would consider polite: being happy that people take out the time to respond
to your query to inform you that any of the options you want to hear do not exist, instead of being left in the dark because nobody answered your question. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| lingoleng Senior Member Germany Joined 5297 days ago 605 posts - 1290 votes | Message 10 of 13 20 April 2013 at 8:22pm | IP Logged | ||
Your laptop is the size of a Kindle? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| antibozo Newbie United States fsi.antibozo.net/ Joined 4240 days ago 9 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 11 of 13 20 April 2013 at 8:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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tarvos, while your intention may have been friendly, redundant commentary on a forum like this means that someone who may have a truly useful response needs to read through a lot of noise to determine whether what he or she has to say has already been mentioned. This makes it less likely that a useful response will be posted. I understand that you meant well, but i was seeking specific information and i feel your comments sidetracked the thread without adding any information that was helpful.
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| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6658 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 12 of 13 20 April 2013 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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En sådan attityd lär inte bli speciellt populär i Sverige – vi är inte speciellt kära i konflikter.
To be honest, no matter how friggin good a scan is, you will still have problems OCR'ing i I and l, that's just how the world is. The same goes for m, n and r that sometimes looks very similar. The quality of the original is probably not that good either – it was an in house made book, not something fancily typeset to be sold for money. And if we're in complaining mode. I as in the pronoun for the first person singular is always capitalised, always. A douche bag passive aggressive ironic answer is, too, always a douche bag passive aggressive answer. Besides, "Sorry, but there are no other scans" is very much indeed a helpful answer. It's telling you that you might try getting an extra job and buy the physical FSI manual rather than googling due to the fact that there is no other version. Bigger topics, for some reason, get more answers than smaller ones. People do not always read through an entire thread before answering. Also, this is a public forum and you're not entitled to any answers at all, and you're definitely not entitled to chose what answers you'll get. Lycka till med svenskan. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| antibozo Newbie United States fsi.antibozo.net/ Joined 4240 days ago 9 posts - 24 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 13 of 13 21 April 2013 at 1:04am | IP Logged | ||
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> To be honest, no matter how friggin good a scan is, you will still have problems OCR'ing i I and l, that's just how the world is.
If you go back to my original post, you'll note i specifically allow that 'l' and 'I' will be difficult to distinguish even with a good scan. 'i', however, in the font used, would be distinguishable in many or most cases if it weren't for the pixelation caused by the low resolution of the scan, which causes the dot to merge with the vertical stroke. Since 'i' and 'l' are frequent in Swedish, especially in combination, a higher-resolution scan would ultimately save a lot of time. The software is having relatively little trouble with the other characters you mention. > The quality of the original is probably not that good either – it was an in house made book, not something fancily typeset to be sold for money. The book looks to me as if it was set using a Selectric-style typewriter, which certainly has well-defined characters as long as it has a clean ribbon. I am old enough to have owned and used such a typewriter. > I as in the pronoun for the first person singular is always capitalised, always. A douche bag passive aggressive ironic answer is, too, always a douche bag passive aggressive answer. Capitalize it if you like. I capitalize it only at the beginning of sentences. I see no practical reason for that orthographic convention; it isn't observed with any other pronoun, except when referring to God; since i am not God, i prefer not to capitalize i. I see also you're well acquainted with the authorship of the douchebag passive-aggressive answer, although, for someone so quick to correct others' orthography, you seem a little lax on hyphenation practice. > Besides, "Sorry, but there are no other scans" is very much indeed a helpful answer. It's telling you that you might try getting an extra job and buy the physical FSI manual rather than googling due to the fact that there is no other version. That's a disingenuous response; it is not a useful answer in this case because it is not authoritative: tarvos is in no position to assert the non-existence of a better scan. The true meaning of the answer is "I don't know of any other scan," and the point of writing a post saying that one doesn't know escapes me. As far as getting another manual, that's not so straightforward either, since a manual that was printed from the PDF would be a step down. I'd need to find an original FSI-printed manual, and that's not so easy to distinguish from descriptions on eBay. Since someone here might actually own one, asking here is a logical thing to do. And if people would stop changing the subject and unauthoritatively claiming non-existence and impossibility, maybe someone with such a manual would see what the question actually is and respond. > Bigger topics, for some reason, get more answers than smaller ones. People do not always read through an entire thread before answering. Also, this is a public forum and you're not entitled to any answers at all, and you're definitely not entitled to chose what answers you'll get. Bigger topics get more noise, sure. Of course people do not always read through an entire thread before answering, but if the topic of the thread is essentially obscured by noise, they won't even know what the question is. In this case, the bigger the topic gets, the less it is about the question i was asking. I am certainly entitled to point out the uselessness of noise, such as your posts so far on this thread, and i'd be much happier with no answers at all than a bunch of useless ones. Naturally others are entitled to post inconsiderately irrelevant answers to a targeted request for information, and to be quick to take offense when their lack of consideration is pointed out. Restating the topic: Does anyone have or know of a higher resolution scan of the FSI Swedish text, or possibly an original FSI print they'd be willing to scan or to part with? Edited by antibozo on 21 April 2013 at 4:03am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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