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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes  Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 41 of 51 06 May 2013 at 9:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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Of course the reality may differ but it is at least some kind of lead and usually much better than the usual
"intermediate" "advanced" etc. Which could, and often did, mean quite anything Well, I understand they don't know and care about the CEFR scale, that is normal. But I just don't get how could they not care about a list of actual contents of the course. Do they not care about what will the next level bring new or whether the course will trully give them what they are looking for? Or are they usually just so rich that they can afrord to throw money without caring where? This is like buying a car knowing just that it is a Honda and it is red. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6902 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French | Message 42 of 51 06 May 2013 at 9:44pm | IP Logged | ||
It's not as uncommon as we might think. When I buy a phone / laptop / camera etc., I spend at least a day on reading specifications, reviews, opinions on forums etc. Usually, it's much longer than a day. I rarely buy a book without having read its reviews. I don't book a hostel without having read its reviews in a few sources etc. And yet I know people whose whole specification of the phone is e.g. "nice and white" (and maybe the brand, or not even that). I would say most people are really not interested in the exact content which is included in the course. They want to learn the language up to level X, period, and they trust publishers (or teachers, for that matter) that they know what they're doing. They want someone to guide them, and I don't find it all that surprising although it's not how I function. Edited by Julie on 06 May 2013 at 9:45pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6908 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 43 of 51 06 May 2013 at 11:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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OK, I haven't had a close look at RS since maybe... April 2008.
How detailed should the specifications be? Key elements like numbers, prepositions, colours etc.? Grammar topics? A transcript of the sentences which the buyer could have a look at beforehand? (Just kidding about the last one... "Wait a secoooooond... so THIS is what I get for paying hundreds of dollars!?") 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Betjeman Groupie Germany Joined 6142 days ago 85 posts - 204 votes Speaks: German* | Message 44 of 51 15 May 2013 at 12:10pm | IP Logged | ||
They used to have their complete curriculum online (in pdf. format, including every single sentence in the course). I'm not quite sure if they have removed this feature, which would be a shame. If they didn't, it is probably to be found in the support section. Apart from that you can always get a rough overview of the course contents on their website, pretty much as with any other publisher. I used to employ those files for some kind of Assimil-style second wave by donwloading the curriculum in my native language as well as in the language I was learning and back-translating from L1 to L2. Since the course contents are more or less identical with any language, it worked out quite well. Edited by Betjeman on 15 May 2013 at 12:17pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5008 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 45 of 51 15 May 2013 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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The rough overview doesn't tell anything. Last time I checked, they gave only a list of
about ten very vague tourist topics ended with "and a lot more" or similar sentence and that was their rough overview of five levels, each paid separately. So, with that little info, RS is currently not worth either the 3GB of my harddrive to download it to from torrents and, more importantly, my precious time for such an experiment. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Betjeman Groupie Germany Joined 6142 days ago 85 posts - 204 votes Speaks: German* | Message 46 of 51 15 May 2013 at 3:53pm | IP Logged | ||
Apart from your advocating copyright infringement, I suppose you get a lot more info from the back cover of an Assimil/Michel Thomas/Pimsleur/Paul Nobles/Whatever course? By the way, did you have a look into their website if those curricula are still available? Oh well, I'm not really interested, since this kind of argument is downright ridiculous. Edited by Betjeman on 15 May 2013 at 3:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6908 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 47 of 51 15 May 2013 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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After using a major search engine:
http://resources.rosettastone.com/assets/ollc/1206992387/ass ets/pdfs/curriculum_texts/rs/level_1/ENG.pdf Substituting the level number and the language code will result in more hits... 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 48 of 51 15 May 2013 at 9:14pm | IP Logged | ||
Seriously, RS, give up. It would take interesting insight and A LOT of active participation in the non-RS threads before we listen to any employee of yours. 6 persons have voted this message useful |
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