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| Maralol Nonaglot Newbie France Joined 5016 days ago 35 posts - 75 votes  Speaks: Spanish, French*, English, German, Italian, Dutch, Swedish, Portuguese, Catalan Studies: Polish, Danish, Russian, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 9 of 132 26 September 2013 at 8:51pm | IP Logged |
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Clugston is the biggest douchebag there is on the internet. I won't watch the video just
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| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5226 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 10 of 132 26 September 2013 at 8:51pm | IP Logged |
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There's nothing wrong with debate, there's nothing wrong with being negative if someone's ideas are wrong, and nothing wrong with being aggressively negative if someone's ideas are really wrong.
What matters in debate is whether or not someone knows what they're talking about and can follow an argument. Very few have both skills. I'd never heard of this guy, and watching the video, I doubt he'd be capable of debating properly. What is this guy's curriculum vitae anyway? 6 persons have voted this message useful | |
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5226 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 11 of 132 26 September 2013 at 9:17pm | IP Logged |
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I've listened to a couple of videos now. The guy's definitely interesting, and I agree with 1. the need for empirical verification of methods, and 2. the importance of credentials.
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| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5764 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 12 of 132 26 September 2013 at 9:24pm | IP Logged |
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Who is that and why should I watch his video?
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| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4251 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 13 of 132 26 September 2013 at 9:40pm | IP Logged |
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All of the challenged always say they don't promise it will work for everyone, they only know what works for them so I fail to see the need.
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| I'm With Stupid Senior Member Vietnam Joined 4171 days ago 165 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Vietnamese | Message 14 of 132 26 September 2013 at 11:05pm | IP Logged |
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He might have something interesting to say if he didn't spend his whole video delivering personal attacks. I just watched one called "be fluent in foreign languages," which you'd think speaks for itself. Yet the vast majority was spent attacking others, and the only positive advice he actually offered was that you need genuine motivation and someone to speak to. Hardly ground-breaking stuff for someone with such credentials (presumably).
One funny thing I did notice is his little disclaimer at the start that says that you need to put your real name and real photo if you want to comment on his video. A rule that is seemingly relaxed if you leave a comment praising him. But I guess the easiest way to become successful on Youtube is piggybacking on those more successful than yourself. Much harder to build a profile by simply offering useful advice. Shame, because I think he might have some interesting stuff to contribute. Edited by I'm With Stupid on 26 September 2013 at 11:16pm 11 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Maralol Nonaglot Newbie France Joined 5016 days ago 35 posts - 75 votes Speaks: Spanish, French*, English, German, Italian, Dutch, Swedish, Portuguese, Catalan Studies: Polish, Danish, Russian, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 15 of 132 26 September 2013 at 11:08pm | IP Logged |
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"Hardly ground-breaking stuff for someone with such credentials (presumably)."
We've yet to see his credentials... Or a video, you know, actually speaking foreign languages. Just so we know why he is supposed to be the polyglot authority. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4842 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 16 of 132 26 September 2013 at 11:18pm | IP Logged |
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By the way, what's his obsession with field linguistics? Why should a polyglot know how to make grammar and phonology sketches of unrecorded languages? That's like apples and oranges.
And his other obsession whith credentials and empirical proof: Isn't it empirical proof enough that Steve Kaufmann speaks 10 languages fluently? Why does he need a certificate proving this fact? Sorry, Clugston is just a gigantic hyper-aggressive troll. Nothing more, nothing less. Edited by Josquin on 26 September 2013 at 11:20pm 14 persons have voted this message useful |
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