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| Irish_Goon Senior Member United States Joined 6416 days ago 117 posts - 170 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 41 of 132 28 September 2013 at 4:27pm | IP Logged | ||
Which seems to directly conflict with "field linguistics." 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Maralol Nonaglot Newbie France Joined 5019 days ago 35 posts - 75 votes Speaks: Spanish, French*, English, German, Italian, Dutch, Swedish, Portuguese, Catalan Studies: Polish, Danish, Russian, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 42 of 132 28 September 2013 at 5:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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He seems to know a bit of Spanish and French.
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| KidRoberts Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4136 days ago 19 posts - 27 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Afrikaans | Message 43 of 132 28 September 2013 at 6:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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He looks like he knows Thai too? He was correcting Moses on something.
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| wber Groupie United States Joined 4302 days ago 45 posts - 77 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Vietnamese, French | Message 44 of 132 28 September 2013 at 6:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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First, this guy is a total douche. Second, he keeps propping up his credentials about "studying a language" to try to dismiss other people's opinions since he thinks because he has "studied a language in an academic way" it makes him smarter than everyone else. No it does not. You cannot study a language. You have to experience it. Yes, that does encompass studying but up to a point but it doesn't matter when you're out there and can't to relate to the people. Also,a lot of native speakers haven't truly "studied their language" but has that made them incompetent or unsuccessful in any way in communicating in that language, do they struggle wading through the different registers of that language, all its complications,cultural inferences, and subtexts? Probably not.
Also, there are language, where ethnicity and nationality are strongly tied to each other ( Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese etc..) In these languages, I'm going to be blunt but unless you look the part, no matter how fluently you speak the language, you will always be considered an outsider and thus a huge part of the language and its social intricacies will always be excluded from you. Thus a whole linguistic field is blocked of from you while a poor illiterate farmer who is considered an insider will have more access, knowledge and experience with it even if he couldn't care less about it. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4370 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans | Message 45 of 132 28 September 2013 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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As entertaining as it was to waste some time watching his videos, I think I probably wouldn't want to see the fallout of a debate!
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| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4623 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 46 of 132 28 September 2013 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Kaufmann and Lewis might not be everyone's cup of tea but they have achieved considerable success in a
large number of languages....no mean feat whatever way you look at it. These are guys you can learn from. 9 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| KidRoberts Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4136 days ago 19 posts - 27 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Afrikaans | Message 47 of 132 28 September 2013 at 7:25pm | IP Logged | ||
I don't agree with everything they say, but they're both insanely encouraging. I watched this guy's video about language learning (or something) yesterday, and I wanted to hide in a dimly lit room. 6 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Retinend Triglot Senior Member SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4309 days ago 283 posts - 557 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), French | Message 48 of 132 28 September 2013 at 8:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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Clugston seems to be implying that he's used his skills as a field linguist to learn at
least one undocumented language. So proving his superiority. But he never gives any details about this rightfully impressive feat. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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