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| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4386 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes  Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 1 of 16 07 November 2013 at 2:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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Do you think advanced linguistic certifications like CAE , CPE and their equivalent for other languages are
useful ? For sure their required to study at university , but for instance in companies are they highly considered or is it more important that you can show you actually know the language ? What is your take on that ? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4356 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew | Message 2 of 16 07 November 2013 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think that you can always show your knowledge, but if professional accomplishment is a goal go for the certificates. Why risk it?
Having said that, in a bad economy bosses prefer language knowledge without a degree, because they are not oblidged to pay extra for your qualifications. It is happening in Greece these days. I don't know about Italy. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4386 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 3 of 16 07 November 2013 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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Linguistic certifications are not degrees , it is something you get on your own ,usually at your expenses
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| aspiringplyglot Triglot Groupie United Kingdom aspiringpolyglot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4575 days ago 40 posts - 62 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Esperanto, Polish, Scottish Gaelic, French | Message 4 of 16 07 November 2013 at 4:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'd say it's always better to show your skills. There could be two people both with the certificate, one who just passed, the other who had no problem.
The problem with certificates is that once you get them, you have them for life. You may not keep the language active and therefore your level could deteriorate with time. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 5 of 16 07 November 2013 at 4:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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I doubt if you have a C2 certificate that you really lose enough for not maintaining
fluency though. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| aspiringplyglot Triglot Groupie United Kingdom aspiringpolyglot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4575 days ago 40 posts - 62 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Esperanto, Polish, Scottish Gaelic, French | Message 6 of 16 07 November 2013 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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Perhaps not losing the language but fluency in terms of how you can produce the language without too many stumbles or pauses can deteriorate very quickly, I believe. I've got a Spanish friend who passed the CAE and shortly after returned to Spain for a month. When she came back it took her at least 3 or 4 days to get back into the swing of things... and that was just a month without English. If that were 2 or 3 years for example, it could/would take longer than a couple of days to build that back up.
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6907 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 16 07 November 2013 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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Considering the time and effort spent on the language to reach C2, and then to take an exam and pass it, I think that person is unlikely to forget the language.
If you learn something well, it won't go away. What does CAE equal in terms of CEFR? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| aspiringplyglot Triglot Groupie United Kingdom aspiringpolyglot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4575 days ago 40 posts - 62 votes Speaks: English*, GermanB2, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Esperanto, Polish, Scottish Gaelic, French | Message 8 of 16 07 November 2013 at 5:33pm | IP Logged | ||
I believe it's C1 1 person has voted this message useful |
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