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| chucknorrisman Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5450 days ago 321 posts - 435 votes  Speaks: Korean*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, Mandarin, Lithuanian, French | Message 193 of 249 12 November 2010 at 1:55pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Why not? Many countries have succeeded reducing loan words in their national languages through the right policies. Besides, English has no problem functioning with French, Latin, Greek words; Korean and Vietnamese have a problem because of the Chinese words. What's wrong with trying to correct a problem? Anyways, I hope that the Vietnamese don't go back to using them, and that its reduce eventually vanishes in Korean. Edited by chucknorrisman on 12 November 2010 at 2:02pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| dissident Newbie United States Joined 5314 days ago 37 posts - 43 votes | Message 194 of 249 12 November 2010 at 11:05pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
No. They have succeeded through wrong policies. There is nothing wrong with loan words - i hate it when the government tries to invent artificial words that supposedly exist in native language to replace a loanword that everybody has been happily using. It is a pathetic ordeal. There is nothing wrong with adopting words from other languages just like there is nothing wrong with adopting ideas from other people - unless one wishes to be an idiot until one dies. There is no reason why there should be different words for "internet" or "coffee" in different languages. It hurts your national pride that internet was invented elsewhere ? Well then invest in education maybe your people will invent something worthwhile - don't think you're accomplishing something by inventing useless words except digging yourself into a ditch. Edited by dissident on 12 November 2010 at 11:09pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| jeeb Groupie Joined 5162 days ago 49 posts - 80 votes | Message 195 of 249 13 November 2010 at 1:40am | IP Logged | ||||||||
First of all, I don't mind if Korean or Vietnamese get rid of Chinese loan words. I am not those patriotic Chinese. But why don't Korean government do something about homophone if loan word can be replaced? Is it because the change is too extreme that the extermination of Chinese loan words becomes impossible? I don't speak Korean. I just heard from some Korean learners (Chinese people) that Korean has many homophones and causes comprehension problem. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| jeeb Groupie Joined 5162 days ago 49 posts - 80 votes | Message 196 of 249 13 November 2010 at 1:43am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Forget to post this one in here.
Even Chinese are so eager to learn English and put their children into Disney English school. So this will make sure that English will still be the lingua franca in the World. Edited by jeeb on 13 November 2010 at 1:48am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6036 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes 5 sounds | Message 198 of 249 13 November 2010 at 5:14pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Sometimes the loanwords are associated with bad memories, like foreign occupation for example, and not everybody is "happily using them". But I agree that language policies of that sort are not always successful, and not always desirable. It depends on the case.
What you accomplish is keeping the language interesting and unique. Moreover, loanwords don't make sense to people who have little or no knowledge of English. So I'm very much in favour of creating words based on the rules and core vocabulary of each language. It is inevitable that some English loanwords will persist, but that's no reason to give up the fight. Edited by Sennin on 13 November 2010 at 5:16pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| jeeb Groupie Joined 5162 days ago 49 posts - 80 votes | Message 199 of 249 13 November 2010 at 7:41pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Definitely the British and American English speakers have to embrace Chinglish and try not to be a grammar nazi. XD But there is a good news for you people - 
There're so many "get-rid-of-accent' book in Taiwan and China 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| RealJames Diglot Newbie Japan realizeenglish.com/ Joined 5126 days ago 37 posts - 42 votes Speaks: French, English* Studies: Japanese | Message 200 of 249 14 November 2010 at 4:45am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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This is a long thread!!
I think that finance will dictate the language of choice in coming generations... If the Chinese economy flourishes so will parents desire to teach it's language to their children :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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