Carlucio Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4856 days ago 70 posts - 113 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC1, Spanish Studies: Mandarin
| Message 49 of 75 03 April 2013 at 5:07am | IP Logged |
Iversen wrote:
I watch more television and read more books and homepages in English than in all other languages combined.
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Me too, what i love about learning languages is how it allows you to experience lots of different things that you wouldn't be able to do if you were a monoglot, specifically about English, i think its the best language to learn other languages, for a very simple reason: studying materials are abundant and generally better than those available in other languages, so when someone asks me how to start learning any language i say: learn English first.
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bushwick Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 6242 days ago 407 posts - 443 votes Speaks: German, Croatian*, English, Dutch Studies: French, Japanese
| Message 50 of 75 16 April 2013 at 1:52am | IP Logged |
yes a universal language is undesirable.
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MarcoLeal Groupie Portugal Joined 4832 days ago 58 posts - 104 votes Speaks: Portuguese*
| Message 51 of 75 18 April 2013 at 12:18pm | IP Logged |
bushwick wrote:
yes a universal language is undesirable. |
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You put forward a very solid and compelling argument but I like a good challenge so after careful deliberating and extensive research I came up with a rather persuasive counter-argument: No, it isn't.
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clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5176 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi
| Message 52 of 75 03 May 2013 at 2:03am | IP Logged |
Why a Universal language would lead to peace?
Peace don't go on wars, because they speak different languages.
Think about Rwanda or Yugoslavia.
I am sorry, but I think the key to peace is in mutual undesrtanding, and not emininating the differences or using the same language.
On the contrary you cannot hate if you don't know what they are saying.
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7154 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 53 of 75 03 May 2013 at 2:10am | IP Logged |
MarcoLeal wrote:
bushwick wrote:
yes a universal language is undesirable. |
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You put forward a very solid and compelling argument but I like a good challenge so after careful deliberating and extensive research I came up with a rather persuasive counter-argument: No, it isn't. |
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I somehow suspect that bushwick was being facetious given the slant laid out by the thread's originator.
Raccoon wrote:
This is a question that I've been considering for a while:
What language should everyone learn?
This question is important to me, because I believe that better communication leads to greater peace and understanding. Because this post is a little long, I'll just summarize here: I believe that a universal language is undesireable. I believe that encouraging multi-lingualism is the best alternative. [...] |
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...which is followed by Raccoon's lengthy justification for this slant.
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James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5373 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French
| Message 54 of 75 03 May 2013 at 3:31am | IP Logged |
A universal language would be a step toward world peace? Seriously?
How do you get a universal language? People obviously don't want to do it through their own free choice. You are therefore left with using force, aggression and coercion to get your "universal language." Using force, aggression and coercion against is the opposite of peace.
Peace comes from accepting and embracing diversity and freedom. It comes from letting other people mind their own business.
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7154 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 55 of 75 03 May 2013 at 3:48am | IP Logged |
James29 wrote:
A universal language would be a step toward world peace? Seriously?
How do you get a universal language? People obviously don't want to do it through their own free choice. You are therefore left with using force, aggression and coercion to get your "universal language." Using force, aggression and coercion against is the opposite of peace.
Peace comes from accepting and embracing diversity and freedom. It comes from letting other people mind their own business.
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Whose post are you referring to?
I gather that Raccoon's hypothesis is that better communication leads to world peace, and that multilingualism is the best way to acheieve that.
Raccoon's link reeks of being a non-sequitur.
If people don't want peace, they'll find ways to acheive that regardless of how many or how few languages (or even what languages) are used by the relevant parties.
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vilas Pentaglot Senior Member Italy Joined 6958 days ago 531 posts - 722 votes Speaks: Spanish, Italian*, English, French, Portuguese
| Message 56 of 75 03 May 2013 at 9:58am | IP Logged |
Yes, a universal language is desirable, but virtually impossible to create.
So we can keep on killing each other with the help of translators .
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