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| Cheshire Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4586 days ago 23 posts - 26 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese | Message 9 of 15 19 April 2012 at 4:59am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the replies everyone. I think I still need to consider it but am weighing my options. I can understand the reality of me getting better at Spanish before adding such a similar language but at the same time I am really interested in Portuguese as well. @ Serpent: I want to learn Portuguese because I have a really good friend who is Brazilian and I plan on visiting him soon and would like to communicate somewhat okay. Also, I have a long term goal of learning the main romance languages and Portuguese is one of them. As for your second question, I'm interested in a Portuguese class because there are no native Portuguese speakers that I know of where I live and it would give me a chance to do conversational Portuguese in class. Also, the college credit would be helpful too. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6528 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 10 of 15 19 April 2012 at 5:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you're more interested in Portuguese than in Spanish, go for it. your Spanish might suffer a bit but it shouldn't be too bad. I know it would just upset me if I found myself using Spanish words in Portuguese, so I'm not working on my active skills in Spanish...but I'm sure native speakers would understand me anyway. Seems like we're both more interested in Portuguese but I started it first and you started Spanish first. (BTW here in Russia Spanish is not really studied much...it's even less common than Italian)
As for the college credit... do beginner and advanced classes count the same? perhaps it's a good idea to just drop Spanish and focus on Portuguese for now. You have a lot of exposure so you won't lose what you already have, and chances are you'll even improve slowly. You almost seem to be in the same situation where I was some 7-8 years ago. I fell in love with Finnish long ago but I was studying German at school. I always kept on telling myself I'd start Finnish when my German was better... but when in 2005 I made up my mind and started learning Finnish, it was the best decision of my language learning life. I've spent countless hours and I've become fluent...and I still don't speak German :D it won't necessarily happen to you though :D 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Gallo1801 Diglot Senior Member Spain Joined 4833 days ago 164 posts - 248 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), Croatian, German, French | Message 11 of 15 20 April 2012 at 3:08am | IP Logged | ||
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Get proficient in Spanish, then learn Portuguese from a Spanish speaker's perspective.
There are tons of resources for Spanish speakers (non-native as well as native) that teach you the 'short cuts' to guessing Portuguese words and structure, and when you just have to know differences, like the dizzying number of false friends. For example, words in Spanish like horno, hablar, hierro, and hacer change to forno, falar, ferro, and fazer. It's fun too, because you really get to know some historical linguistics of how iberian romance deviated and grew from Latin (if that sort of thing is interesting to you haha) Check out the Ta Falado podcasts from UT-A. Google it, and it'll show up. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cheshire Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4586 days ago 23 posts - 26 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese | Message 12 of 15 20 April 2012 at 11:32am | IP Logged | ||
As far as college credits go, all language classes are the same number of credits regardless of the level you're at. So yes, beginner and advanced are the same credits. I had no idea how uncommon Spanish was in Russia, but I guess it makes sense. It's all too common here in the US, especially in the Southwest where I live. I appreciate the advice. At the moment I'm more interested in Portuguese so maybe I'll go ahead and just try that and then continue with my Spanish later on. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5660 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese | Message 13 of 15 03 May 2012 at 8:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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Not a good idea. Trust me, I've done it and failed a major Spanish test because I kept
accidentally throwing Portuguese words in. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6528 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 14 of 15 03 May 2012 at 11:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, in your secondary native language? :/
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| JiriT Triglot Groupie Czech Republic Joined 4728 days ago 60 posts - 95 votes Speaks: Czech*, English, German | Message 15 of 15 04 May 2012 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | ||
Generally, I would not recommend to begin studying two language simultaneously. But I am not against studying two languages at the same time. It would meand that one can learn just one foreign language. Or s/he must stop with the first language and then to start with the second one. Language learning has some stages. A beginner has to learn the phonetics of the language, then memorise some basic vocabulary and basic grammar, also memorise some conversational phrases. It is a lot of drill, especially memory drill. But it is possible to learn one language and at the same time to improve or just to maintain the knowledge of the language I know pretty well. I can combine hard memory work and drill on one language with causual activities on or in the second one. Or one can learn one language intensively and begin flirting with the next language. To be an intermediate student in one language and a beginner in the new one. Possible problems: When the languages are different, there should be no problem. For instance, I will not have problem in German with Russian word, but maybe with English words. I had problems in Russian with Czech or Slovak words. It may be difficult to separate similar languages. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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