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kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4850 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese
| Message 17 of 49 09 February 2013 at 6:41am | IP Logged |
Thank you all for your comments.
Yeah, I guess it would be a waste of time to invest a year into a language for a few days use. But I feel bad to just force my English on people when I travel. That didn't work too well when I went to France, although it seemed okay in the Netherlands...
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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5012 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian
| Message 18 of 49 09 February 2013 at 10:59am | IP Logged |
Either you are interested in Finnish language and finnish culture and therefore learning Finnish may be awesome. Or you are not that interested, just want a nice holiday there, and therefore should feel free not to do it. You are a native speaker of English, you are giving free practice which many people welcome, no matter where you go. :-)
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| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4850 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese
| Message 19 of 49 09 February 2013 at 11:15am | IP Logged |
I never saw it that way, Cavesa! Interesting viewpoint! Well, if people want free practice with English, and I get to travel easily, then why not!
To be honest, I am not interested in the Finnish language and culture - at least not yet. So I'll forego any serious Finnish study and worry about improving my Japanese and Portuguese for the time being.
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| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4625 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 20 of 49 09 February 2013 at 1:18pm | IP Logged |
It's funny how protective some people can be of their language and their perception of its difficulty: don't learn
Finnish, the grammar is too tough, the word endings impenetrable, their are sounds that no non-native can
attempt let alone reproduce. The locals would rather practise English etc.
Edited by beano on 09 February 2013 at 1:18pm
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| Thatzright Diglot Senior Member Finland Joined 5675 days ago 202 posts - 311 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English Studies: French, Swedish, German, Russian
| Message 21 of 49 09 February 2013 at 1:37pm | IP Logged |
You could try to learn some very basic things like greetings, goodbye etc. At least it's
something. I agree with those who've said that trying to learn more complicated things
for the sake of a few days may be a waste of time - don't get me wrong, learning a
language is never a waste of time, but from an utilitarian point of view. Finns in
general will understand English quite well, especially those who don't look ancient ; )
As far as bragging about the language being "impossible" goes, which it definitely is
not, who
has been doing that here?
...And why is my text all "blocky"?
Edited by Thatzright on 09 February 2013 at 1:40pm
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 22 of 49 09 February 2013 at 2:15pm | IP Logged |
Nothing hilarious, considering it's just for a short trip.
I do recommend you to learn the pronunciation and some basic words, and maybe get a phrasebook too depending on how far you're going.
For some travel stuff, I'd be happy to chat with you via PM or in my log:)
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 23 of 49 09 February 2013 at 2:16pm | IP Logged |
Thatzright wrote:
...And why is my text all "blocky"? |
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are you posting from a mobile device? or from a resized window using Chrome?
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| Aquila123 Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mydeltapi.com Joined 5309 days ago 201 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Finnish, Russian
| Message 24 of 49 10 February 2013 at 12:36am | IP Logged |
Most finnish megawords are composed nouns or adjectives of the same kind you have in Gemen - and Norwegian. Norwegian has even composted verbs.
Then you have the flectional endings wich are somewhat more bulky than in Germanic languages. But German has rather bulky and tricky combinations of prepositions plus articles, so what?
The vowel sounds are the same as in German.
The important distinction between long and short vowels and consonants are tricky, but can be mastered fairly quckly, though.
The decidedly most tricky part of Finnish grammer is the umlaut/ablaut fenomenons you find in both consonants and vowels, but these are mostly regular, though.
By the way: A little pep talk for you:
Kyllä voitte oppia puhumaan suomea jollette pelkää näitä pitkiä sanoja niin paljon. Jos opiskelette yhdessã tunnessa joka päivân viidessã kuukaudessa, osaatte jo varmasti puhua paljon.
(I might have mades some mistakes, if so please corect them)
Edited by Aquila123 on 10 February 2013 at 9:55am
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