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| kaptengröt Tetraglot Groupie Sweden Joined 4341 days ago 92 posts - 163 votes  Speaks: English*, Swedish, Faroese, Icelandic Studies: Japanese | Message 1 of 14 04 April 2013 at 11:27am | IP Logged | ||
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Hey, I'm basically in the process of making a textbook for Faroese for English speakers. If anyone wants to help out (especially if someone fluent in spoken Faroese is willing to record audio!!) that would be great. The main problem I have right now is just organizing what I've already translated/typed up into a good order for learning, and figuring out which vocabulary to teach.
I have some questions for you as learners: - What sort of things do you love and hate in textbooks? (topics, formats, etc.) - What do you find most important in Faroese (therefore that I should teach first)? In terms of both grammar and vocabulary. - What do you find least important? - What do you find easiest and most difficult to learn? - Is grammar worksheet / workbook practise necessary, or would you do that on your own? Do you even find it helpful? This basically means "does kaptengröt have to make a grammar workbook alongside the textbook or not". Unrelated but I have also made a 700-word/phrase Memrise vocab list for Faroese: http://www.memrise.com/course/edit/82676/levels/#l_635183 and a 200-word one here for Faroese-Swedish: http://www.memrise.com/course/82931/200-faroiska-matord/ Edit: Okay, so far I've been told: - Time words, as in "Sorry I was LATE to class" and "I'll do it TOMORROW" - How to say to travel by vehicle or on foot or by bus etc. - All the various forms of "I don't speak much Faroese" should be taught very early on. I was planning from the beginning to break down "real" sentences picked from books and online etc. to show grammar break-downs, and I had been toying with the idea of making a series of what's essentially parallel texts with grammar notes for a "second" option of learning written Faroese. The problem there would be finding something that is out of copyright or being able to get the rights in order to re-publish the text as a text for learners, but I might be able to ask around here in Sweden and see if anyone knows if it would be very difficult to get. Edited by kaptengröt on 04 April 2013 at 12:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4710 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 2 of 14 04 April 2013 at 11:58am | IP Logged | ||
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Teach vocabulary people are definitely going to need, and include a wide variety of
topics so people can mix and match if they're not interested in topic x. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kaptengröt Tetraglot Groupie Sweden Joined 4341 days ago 92 posts - 163 votes Speaks: English*, Swedish, Faroese, Icelandic Studies: Japanese | Message 3 of 14 04 April 2013 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes, but it's difficult for me to pick out absolutely which vocabulary is most useful. After, say, "prepositions" I'm a bit lost : P Edited by kaptengröt on 04 April 2013 at 12:29pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4710 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 4 of 14 04 April 2013 at 12:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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My advice would be to start with general things that every course starts out with
(question words, everyday objects, things people will surely encounter in the Faroes) and eventually simply use texts from newspapers or something like that. Make it comprehensive, so include some texts on history, religion, sport, nature, everything at the end. You could make a chapter for each important simple topic, developing the grammar as you go and ending with an "assorted reader".
Would be nice, but sell it separately so people don't feel forced. Some people like grammar and it's nice, but make it an additional extra for those who like it. Edited by tarvos on 04 April 2013 at 12:18pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kaptengröt Tetraglot Groupie Sweden Joined 4341 days ago 92 posts - 163 votes Speaks: English*, Swedish, Faroese, Icelandic Studies: Japanese | Message 5 of 14 04 April 2013 at 12:21pm | IP Logged | ||
The problem there is that I believe a majority of the words most textbooks teach are more useless (when am I going to be showing a Faroese person around in my bathroom??) and most learners probably actually aren't going to go to the Faroe Islands anytime near soon. Besides I myself have never been there but I can understand Faroese easier than any of the other languages I study, so... As for the grammar book, I planned to sell it separately from the beginning if I ever did make it just because I don't want to wait to publish the textbook until after all the grammar exercises are complete/I am lazy and it might not even end up getting made. Edited by kaptengröt on 04 April 2013 at 12:22pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4524 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 6 of 14 04 April 2013 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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I want to point out that there is already a pretty comprehensive textbook for Faroese for English speakers: Adams, Jonathan & Hjalmar P. Petersen. Faroese: A Language Course for beginners Grammar & Textbook. Tórshavn, 2009: Stiðin.
It looks very good at first sight, teaches a vocabulary of about 4000 words and the audio sounds like spoken by young people. I haven't used it though. What I expect of a beginner textbook is that it uses at least the first 2500 most frequent vocabulary items at least 10 times each throughout the book. Furthermore, I'd like to have short dialogues or texts at the left page and a glossary for all used words at the right page. And I really mean all words, not only new ones (well, maybe except the most obvious ones like common conjunctions and articles). Edited by daegga on 04 April 2013 at 3:08pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4718 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese | Message 7 of 14 04 April 2013 at 3:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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Do you know why people here on the forum usually love Assimil so much? In my opinion, because it has dialogues with native audio and biligual texts from lesson 1.
Just a disclaimer. I'm NOT telling you to copy Assimil, not at all (haha). My point is, you could drop some basic and useful dialogues in the lessons, even making it a topic in every lesson. The good side is that you can choose the dialogues yourself, so you won't put any useless words there. Audio is really important though, so you might wanna find/hire a native speaker to record those dialogues and maybe other vocabulary you might wanna drop. But hey, that's just an idea =) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5384 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 8 of 14 04 April 2013 at 4:28pm | IP Logged | ||
That alone, provided you never repeat a single word, is 25,000 words, or roughly 100 pages. Since I suspect these sentences would be translated, you're already at 200 pages. It's WAY too much. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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