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supertom
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 Message 9 of 16
28 August 2013 at 12:43pm | IP Logged 
Assimil: lesson 22 completed
LR: Finished HP y la piedra filosofal
FSI: Completed Unit 4

So over the last days, I have been able to a bit of Spanish. Assimil is coming along
slowly but surely. Nice thing is that I am now learning the most important tenses
(imperfect and preterite, past tenses at the moment). This makes reading and listening
a lot easier, as I can now start to understand more of the irregular verbs like tener,
ser, ir etc. The different forms they take really messed me up so far, so this is good.
Things like fui, fue, tuve etc were really annoying as I couldn't really see what they
meant. Now, these things are starting to click.

FSI is also going well. I found that just doing one unit a day was way too much and
that repetition over time is really important. So for example today, I repeated all the
drills of unit 3 and 4. Almost flawless, so I feel I am now ready to move on to unit 5
tomorrow.

Finished the first HP book again (L2-L2). Will now start with the second book (have the
first four books here in both Spanish and Dutch).

Slowly but slowly I am making progress :)
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 Message 10 of 16
29 August 2013 at 4:51pm | IP Logged 
Assimil
lesson 1-23 FINISHED

LR
HP y la Piedra Filosofal FINISHED
HP y la Cámara Secreta capítulos 1-4

FSI
Units 1-4 FINISHED
Unit 5 IN PROGRESS

Nice assimil lesson again. Really feel like the assimil lessons are filling the holes
that are created with LR. A lot of the things I find difficult at this moment with LR
tend to come up in the assimil lessons, so I guess the progression is quite good.
La cámara secreta has a little bit worse narrator. He doesn't change voice for
different characters so it is a little bit more difficult to follow (first book has an
awesome narrator, I recommend everyone that book. He has a different voice for every
character, so it is really easy to follow who is saying what and when). But I must say,
I am surprised at how well I am able to follow the story.
FSI lesson was quite short and easy. It covered the irregular verb 'ser', which I
already knew quite well (at least in the present tense). But I must say, the practice I
got with using it on the spot was still quite good. Tomorrow I will not have much time,
so I will only review unit 5.

I also started with some anki. 25 new words each day, so I can complete it in under 10
minutes so it doesn't get tedious. Like it so far, guess it is a good addition. I use a
standard deck of the 5000 most common words.

Edited by supertom on 29 August 2013 at 4:51pm

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 Message 11 of 16
03 September 2013 at 1:29pm | IP Logged 
Assimil
lesson 1-26 FINISHED

LR
HP y la Piedra Filosofal FINISHED
HP y la Cámara Secreta capítulos 1-8

FSI
Units 1-6 FINISHED


Slowly moving along. I like the combination I am using. The amount of input I get from
the LR is really nice and it isnt too tiring. It also seems that Assimil is really
closing a lot of gaps I found in the LR part. Missing vocab, missing easy grammar, all
that stuff. FSI really ingrains the grammar points already learned in Assimil.

It is going well and I feel like I am getting better :)
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 Message 12 of 16
04 September 2013 at 12:51pm | IP Logged 
Assimil
lesson 1-27 FINISHED

LR
HP y la Piedra Filosofal FINISHED
HP y la Cámara Secreta capítulos 1-10

FSI
Units 1-6 FINISHED
Unit 7 IN PROGRESS


Just doing my daily thing. Assimil was a nice lesson, lots of future tense with some
other tenses thrown in as well. So it made for good practice. Still takes me a little
under an hour to do each lesson, but this is mainly due to the fact that the
translation part (writing from English to Spanish twice) takes me about half an hour.

LR was fun. I understood pretty well what was going on and the books are just so nice
to read, I love it.

Unit 7 deals with regular -ER verbs, the use of ese-este-aquel/esa-esta-aquella. This
was something I didn't really understood until now. I knew the ese/este part where este
is near you and ese is near the other person, but I didn't know when and why to use
aquel. Now I do, so that is good. Practice with it is nice too. All in all it is a good
lesson with a lot of drills. I will redo them tomorrow to really ingrain them.

Nice thing is that I am noticing that I am starting to constantly think in Spanish. Not
very many 'real' things, but just random Spanish phrases popping into my head like 'el
tabaco rubio, en espana, es barato' or 'no estamos acustombrados a esos formalidades.
Tanto mejor, nosotros tampoco'. Assimil, gotta love it. The same with some of the
drills of FSI. Guess this is good.
Yesterday, I was writing an email to my professor in English, but the Spanish words
kept popping into my head. Kinda funny, but it was quite difficult to find the English
words sometimes.. :P


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 Message 13 of 16
05 September 2013 at 1:40pm | IP Logged 
Assimil
lesson 1-28 FINISHED

LR
HP y la Piedra Filosofal FINISHED
HP y la Cámara Secreta capítulos 1-12

FSI
Units 1-7 FINISHED

Had a little bit less time today. Assimil was a review lesson, so not much new here,
but it is always nice to get to the review part because that 'closes a chapter'. At
least that is how I feel it. Also nice to see that the future tense always has the same
endings, regardless of the verb.

FSI was reviewing the drills. I notice that I make little mistakes, so that is good.
The most difficulty I have with the translation drills. Replacement drills and
variation drills are normally quite easy, but translation drills are just very quick
and pretty difficult some times. But that's okay. Also, when I do the drills without
the book (like today), I get confused sometimes in the beginning of the drill as to
what to do. Then I need 1 or 2 'errors' before I know what they mean.

HP was nice again. Chapter 12 was done listening only. I noticed that I am getting very
good at hearing all the different words. I do not understand them all, but at least I
can distinguish between most of them when I really listen. So it doesn't make that much
difference any more whether I LR or just listen to the audio. I guess this is the
result of a lot of hours spend LR L2-L2.


Also, some of you may notice that I am moving fairly quickly through the material (FSI
and Assimil). That is because I want to get as much exposure as possible before I move
to Panamá. I want to get to the point where I can formulate correct sentences and
understand most of what I hear. But getting to the point where everything comes out
without thinking is a matter of endless practice, something that I will get without
cost once I get to Panamá. So I will leave that part for my stay there and focus here
on getting all of the important grammar ingrained and getting my vocab up to speed, so
that I can quickly fill in all the speed and speech problems once I am there.   

For the next three days, I will be rock climbing in Luxembourg. So probably not a whole
lot of Spanish during these days. I will try to complete my HP book, but probably no
FSI or Assimil during this weekend.

Edited by supertom on 05 September 2013 at 1:42pm

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 Message 14 of 16
17 September 2013 at 3:06pm | IP Logged 
Assimil
lesson 1-30 FINISHED

LR
HP y la Piedra Filosofal FINISHED
HP y la Cámara Secreta FINISHED

FSI
Units 1-7 FINISHED
Unit 8 in PROGRESS

Nothing much to say. Wasn't able to do a whole lot last week, but I find that a small
break is sometimes very important for the brain to catch up with all you have done so
far. So lets hope this was one of those breaks. Happy to have finished the second HP
book now. Will start on the third tomorrow. Harry Potter y el Prisionero de Azkeban,
looking forward to it.
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 Message 15 of 16
22 September 2013 at 2:11pm | IP Logged 
Great progress. You are using some wonderful resources and I am quite impressed you can put in so much daily time. I burn out pretty hard after an hour or two.

You asked about the da Vinci Code. The audio book is simply awesome. Talk about an amazing narrator... Raul Amundaray is simply the best Spanish speaking narrator. I did the da Vinci Code roughly the same time I was doing the first Harry Potter book and it was fine for me... however, I first followed along with the English text and then listened with the Spanish text. I liked it much better simply because I am not really crazy about Harry Potter. I must say also that just listening to the audio of the da Vinci code is amazing and enjoyable.

Edit: Amundaray speaks very slowly and clearly in the audio book. This is an important factor because it gives time to think/understand better than most audio books which use a more rapidfire approach to the audio. You can listen to a sample of the audio on audible.com.

I hope you are able to continue making such great progress. If you goal is speaking, listening and having conversations I'd recommend really pounding away at FSI and active use of Assimil.

Edited by James29 on 22 September 2013 at 2:13pm

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 Message 16 of 16
22 September 2013 at 2:30pm | IP Logged 
Very interesting log! I'm very impressed by your dedication to learning Spanish!

I just started playing with FSI yesterday - found your log when searching for more info on how people actually
use it. Do you read the dialogue first, or listen to it first? Yesterday I did unit 3, but I only did the audio (listening
to the dialogue, repeating it, responding to the drills, listening to the dialogues at the end). I enjoyed it - which
surprised me, to be honest - but I can't help but feel that I'm missing something!

Have you thought about getting a Skype language partner? Some informal conversation practice would probably
be really useful to you before arriving in Panama. It's also a lot of fun! I found some of my language partners
through italki. They're all from Spain, since that's where I'm headed. But there are dozens of members who are
from Panama - they'd be able to help you learn some of the slang and idiomatic expressions from that area:

http://www.italki.com/partners#learn=all&speak=spanish&count ry=PA&page=1


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