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| JIK Diglot Groupie Bahrain Joined 4103 days ago 58 posts - 58 votes  Speaks: Estonian, English* Studies: Spanish, German | Message 25 of 33 11 November 2013 at 5:22am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks James29!
With regards to feeling like FSI/Platiquemos was more efficient for your speaking skills than skype, what exactly did you do that you thought was so helpful? Was it mostly just going through the recordings over and over again and very actively repeating everything out loud? Or did you use some other specific method with it? Well, today I almost finished unit 20 so I'll finish it and move on to unit 21 tomorrow.. barely found anything in this unit to even add to my Anki deck! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4145 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 26 of 33 11 November 2013 at 12:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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My experience is a bit different from James29. Out of everything that I've done, Skype exchanges and tutoring
sessions have been the most effective - by far. Maybe it depends on your partner, but I can easily credit 80% of my progress in speaking Spanish to Skype sessions. But I'm enjoying FSI and I do feel that it's helping with automaticity! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JIK Diglot Groupie Bahrain Joined 4103 days ago 58 posts - 58 votes Speaks: Estonian, English* Studies: Spanish, German | Message 27 of 33 11 November 2013 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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Stelle, thanks for the feedback! My few skype experiences haven't been particularly helpful, but I think
that has had a lot more to do with bad preparation on my part (showing up without anything specific to talk about). I feel like taking lessons through skype would be far more effective, though, than a regular language exchange. Most people don't really seem to analyze their own languages, so they don't know how to explain things that just come naturally to them. Teachers, on the other hand, tend to have to think about the "why" of language a lot more. Unfortunately, at the moment I can't pay for regular classes, so I'm having to stick with Platiquemos and/or regular language exchanges :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4145 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 28 of 33 11 November 2013 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | ||
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A hint for language exchanges: I look for language partners on italki, and seek out partners who are also teachers. I
don't expect them to teach me - but they're extremely patient, and they know how to correct and help me. I'm also a teacher, so I know that I can give back in the same way. It ensures that both parties get a high-quality language exchange - without either one of us paying. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JIK Diglot Groupie Bahrain Joined 4103 days ago 58 posts - 58 votes Speaks: Estonian, English* Studies: Spanish, German | Message 29 of 33 12 November 2013 at 12:29am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks Stelle, I appreciate the ideas! I've mostly been on conversationexchange.com and haven't really
tried out italki. Is italki better in your opinion? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JIK Diglot Groupie Bahrain Joined 4103 days ago 58 posts - 58 votes Speaks: Estonian, English* Studies: Spanish, German | Message 30 of 33 12 November 2013 at 3:37am | IP Logged | ||
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Alright, just finished Unit 20 with a bit of trouble, but I'll go over it in Anki tomorrow. Sentences that
contain both direct and indirect clitics are still a bit frustrating, but I'm getting the hang of them. On to unit 21! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4145 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 31 of 33 17 November 2013 at 10:47pm | IP Logged | ||
Italki is more "social media" inspired, whereas conversation exchange is much more bare-bones. My partners on conversation exchange are a bit older and a bit more serious, which actually works out well. I found good partners on italki, but I found that I had to be really straightforward about what I wanted, including exact times. Otherwise you'll end up with lots of "friends" and no one to talk to. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5376 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 32 of 33 17 November 2013 at 11:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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FSI is good in the sense that it forces you to "spit it out" and it works the grammar and vocab into your brain in so many different directions. I feel it makes me more confident because it makes me speak out loud without much time to think.
Finding conversation partners is tricky sometimes. It seems most people out there are not really serious learners (or even very responsible people). Personally, I found that sharedtalk.com has yielded the best results for conversation partners. Go to the text chat section and ask to chat with someone who is generally the type of person you are looking for. The advantage of sharedtalk is that it is immediate and there is ALWAYS someone there who is learning English and knows Spanish. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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