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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4666 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 17 of 31 10 September 2013 at 2:28pm | IP Logged |
Mad Max wrote:
Well, there are 4 big areas where the language is spoken by over 250 million people,
English is not very spoken and the language is considered international:
- China. Mandarin Chinese is the first or second language of the majority. Some 850
million people speak Mandarin in China
- Latin America, from Los Angeles to Buenos Aires, people usually speak Spanish.
Spanish is spoken in all the Americas by over 400 million people
- Arabic world. Modern Standard Arabic is spoken in Northern Africa and Middle East as
second language (there are not mother tongue speakers) by over 300 million people.
- Former USSR and Eastern Europe, where Russian is the first or second language of some
275 million people.
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You forgot Hindustani (Hindi/Urdu). Because of Bollywood it is now used in all parts of India except for the two Southern states (Kerala and Tamil Nadu). 50 years ago no one understood/spoke Hindi in Bangalore, Goa or Kolkatta. Now it's the 2nd language of people there (competing with English).
Portuguese is also pretty big.
190 million of Brazilians + 10 million Portuguese + 50 Portuguese speakers in Africa
Edited by Medulin on 10 September 2013 at 2:32pm
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| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5098 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German
| Message 18 of 31 10 September 2013 at 11:07pm | IP Logged |
Obviously English and Spanish are the most useful languages here in the US, but that's boring.
I would like to visit Europe extensively if I had the money. So for that scenario French and German would be most useful to me (since I want to visit countries where these languages are spoken. I would like to visit parts of Eastern Europe, but I'm not entirely certain which (non-English) languages will serve me well there. Perhaps each country's national tongue...
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 19 of 31 11 September 2013 at 11:21am | IP Logged |
Yes. In some areas (for example in the areas near borders with Germany or Austria) some
German remains spoken.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6907 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 20 of 31 12 September 2013 at 12:43am | IP Logged |
From Best languages in the region?:
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In my area (Visby, Sweden):
1 Swedish (obviously)
2 English (-"-)
3 German (lots of tourists)
4 Finnish (-"-)
5 Arabic/Kurdish/Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian/(Spanish) (the major immigrant groups, it seems) |
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Over four years since that post, and nothing has changed. Not that there are big communities for any of these languages - perhaps with the exception of Finnish and Polish (which I didn't mention) - but these are the languages you're most likely to hear.
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| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4620 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 21 of 31 12 September 2013 at 1:28am | IP Logged |
tarvos wrote:
Yes. In some areas (for example in the areas near borders with Germany or Austria) some
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I know from personal experience that German is widely understood in Polish towns and villages near the
German border. It's a sort of language bubble in which English won't help you very much.
Funnily enough, the British have a reputation of visiting other lands and not even attempting to learn or use
the language. Yet German speakers do exactly the same thing on the borders with the former communist
states. To me, this proves that an unwillingness to learn a language unless there is an obvious advantage to
be gained is a human trait, rather than one that affects only native English speakers.
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| Halfdan Newbie Canada Joined 4182 days ago 13 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Danish, Mandarin, French
| Message 22 of 31 12 September 2013 at 4:33am | IP Logged |
beano wrote:
tarvos wrote:
Yes. In some areas (for example in the areas near
borders with Germany or Austria) some
German remains spoken. |
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I know from personal experience that German is widely understood in Polish towns and
villages near the
German border. It's a sort of language bubble in which English won't help you very
much.
Funnily enough, the British have a reputation of visiting other lands and not even
attempting to learn or use
the language. Yet German speakers do exactly the same thing on the borders with the
former communist
states. To me, this proves that an unwillingness to learn a language unless there is an
obvious advantage to
be gained is a human trait, rather than one that affects only native English speakers.
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The same seems to be true, at least in part, for German tourists in Scandinavia. I know
a Dane who works in a bakery and has had a number of German customers insist on
ordering in German (as opposed to, say, Danish or even English).
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| Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5098 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German
| Message 23 of 31 12 September 2013 at 10:47am | IP Logged |
beano wrote:
tarvos wrote:
Yes. In some areas (for example in the areas near borders with Germany or Austria) some
German remains spoken. |
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I know from personal experience that German is widely understood in Polish towns and villages near the
German border. It's a sort of language bubble in which English won't help you very much.
Funnily enough, the British have a reputation of visiting other lands and not even attempting to learn or use
the language. Yet German speakers do exactly the same thing on the borders with the former communist
states. To me, this proves that an unwillingness to learn a language unless there is an obvious advantage to
be gained is a human trait, rather than one that affects only native English speakers. |
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But don't both Germans and Eastern Germans tend to learn English? Perhaps they use that as a lingua franca.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 24 of 31 12 September 2013 at 10:53am | IP Logged |
Germans learn English, but they are not as accustomed to using it. Germans dub for
example. In the younger generations English has made some inroads but for people older
than, say, 35-40, it's still not common. When I was in Munich, and stayed with the family
of a friend, I spoke German exclusively, in part because I wanted to practice my rusty
German but also because the English of at least one of the parents left a bit to be
desired. Even though the daughter does speak fluent English (albeit with a morse code
German accent).
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