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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4847 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 161 of 168 19 December 2014 at 5:45pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Here's my end-of-the-year summary for this year's TAC. Hope to see a lot of you on the next East Asian team!
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| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4800 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 162 of 168 23 December 2014 at 7:48am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Here's my summary for 2014.
I was not a good TAC'er this year. Not even remotely. Apart from a few disjointed attempts at reading in Russian and Japanese, I have almost abandoned the two, and my log reflects this. It's not for lack of motivation, though certainly it's because a lot of sudden changes took place over a short period of time, and their impact left me drained. But I have really sized up the situation, and the time I realistically have, and have been steadily working to establish a routine over the past few months. I'm glad to say it's working, so I'm definitely optimistic that 2015 will be THE year for Russian and Japanese. I love my two dear friends, and I miss the time spent doing actual learning, not to mention participating with everyone on the forum. I will not be joining the Russian team for 2015, choosing to keep my focus on only one team (East Asian) but I will still be working a bit on Russian. I'll also definitely update regularly on my progress. I'll post this same summary on my log. I'm not sure yet whether to start a new one, or keep the old one. I like the idea of a clean slate, but I hate to abandon my log, especially in its current state of going south, and pretty darn fast. It feel like I'm closing down a failure of a project. So, I'll think it over the next few days. In the meantime, good luck, folks! See you all on the 2015 East Asian team! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5229 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 163 of 168 12 January 2015 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Well, my 2014 summary starts here (a rather long summary for a most unproductive year), but the part that may be relevant to Japanese I'll paste here for your convenience:
Of these, I didn't manage to get to 2 hours of speaking in Japanese. Exchanges of pleasantries I can manage, anything I attempt beyond that makes me quickly fall back to Spanish, English or whatever, because my vocabulary is so limited I'm (theoretically) better at connecting stuff than I am at actually uttering sentences to be connected. Fortunately, my main goal when meeting my friend was talking to him, not necessarily doing so in Japanese. Right after coming back from Madrid I tried to watch a Kurosawa movie I had previously seen with another friend years ago and I couldn't understand more than a few words here and there, way less than I seemed to recall. I guess what you lose first is whatever stuff is most lightly connected (or unconnected) to anything else. So, Japanese was a total* failure, but again no surprises. The only thing I regret is having neglected the team thread as well, especially because I was co-captain/helmsman. Not that it was very active anyway, but rather than going with the saying "the sorrow of the many is a fool's consolation", I'll take it is a lesson to not partake in any future teams until I actually activate my studies beforehand so there's an actual chance of positive contribution from my part. Sorry everyone. I hope 切腹 is not expected from me, though ; ( 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5138 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 164 of 168 22 September 2016 at 4:44pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Ummm... What does 切腹 mean and how to read it? 切 means "cut", right? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4800 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 165 of 168 22 September 2016 at 6:22pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
It means ritual suicide or disembowelment by cutting one's own belly; what the samurai would do to themselves for various reasons, one being loyalty, other, honor; yet another execution, in times of war. I think mrwarper was being figurative here. "せつ” means to cut.The word in question is read "せっぷく。” Hope this helps. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5138 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 166 of 168 26 September 2016 at 5:33pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
"Seppuku", eh? Yeah, it did help. However, I am also curious about the Kanji 切 itself. If it means "cut", why is it also in the Kanji for "setsuna" which means "precious"? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4800 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Egyptian)* Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian | Message 167 of 168 26 September 2016 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
So, while the kanji itself means cut, it also means sharp, or acute. When you think of it as an adjectival noun, this acuteness could be implemented in precious or ardent, etc. As if it means sharply precious, in other words. I don't know how to explain it, and I'm sorry I'm not doing a good job here, but what I'm trying to say, that this sharpness is contextual, as it could breed cutting, but it could also breed sharp intensity of feeling, like preciousness, kindness, etc. Maybe that's why it's used in the above kanji for seppuku. The samurai is in essence cutting his own precious life short. Edited by Woodsei on 26 September 2016 at 10:30pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5138 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 168 of 168 27 September 2016 at 1:03am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
OK, I get it. What about "setsunai"? Does that mean "unsharp" or "not precious"? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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