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| SueK Groupie United States Joined 4685 days ago 77 posts - 133 votes  Studies: Mandarin | Message 9 of 14 16 March 2012 at 12:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
Good for you!! Let us know how it goes. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| jerrypettit Groupie United States Joined 5960 days ago 79 posts - 103 votes Speaks: English* | Message 10 of 14 17 March 2012 at 12:51am | IP Logged | |||||
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> I've started at 50 words/day (80% retention) and raised that to 100 words/day (60%
retention).< atama warui: What software are you using that you can set the retention rates at those levels. I use both Anki and Supermemo, and in Supermemo the default is (as, I believe, it is with Anki) 90%...but Supermemo can be adjusted down to 80%. How are you able to get to the 60%? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| eggcluck Senior Member China Joined 4635 days ago 168 posts - 278 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 11 of 14 17 March 2012 at 1:13am | IP Logged | |||||
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I think he means % correct rather than any software settings, though anki does have a plugin that lets you manually adjust the forgetting index.
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| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4605 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 12 of 14 17 March 2012 at 3:54am | IP Logged | |||||
Somebody likes plants. Anyway, I don't know what you mean by moving something to long term memory. Maybe if you just tell us how you know it's there. Do your reps drop off to nothing? You do a certain amount of studying and using the language every week. You keep seeing the same words over and over again. The amount of studying/using you do will determine how much vocabulary you can truly absorb per day. Your SRS gives you additional reps on vocabulary items, and helps things stick much faster than just using the language, for most people. But the bottom line, and my overall point, is that if you put more items into your SRS than you can truly absorb with your language usage, you will end up doing a lot of SRS reps, and wasting a lot of time. So the optimum number of items depends on the amount of language usage. I wouldn't go over 10 words per hour of usage per day, myself.
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| atama warui Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 4635 days ago 594 posts - 985 votes Speaks: German*, English, Japanese | Message 13 of 14 17 March 2012 at 4:08am | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes, I was referring to the amount of words I got right.
First pass is always somewhere between 60 and 70%, depending on factors like how many katakana words are there (beneficial), how many words consist of items I can identify and, if I can't remember the word as one unit, construct, because I know the parts (beneficial), and so on. I've been going at 100 words/day for a week now and some words just stuck some day. Sleep seems to be underrated. The mere fact I slept between two repetition cycles really made a difference. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4599 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 14 of 14 17 March 2012 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
That's just the memrise terminology. You start out with new words (that's "planting") and they go into the "greenhouse" (which I assume is short-term memory). Then you "grow" them for a while (i.e. they are tested regularly) and when the software thinks you have learned them well enough they are "harvested" and end up in the "garden" (I assume that this is long-term memory). I have no real say in any of this - the software decides. Stuff in the "garden" needs watering at some schedule determined by the software. There are words in there that I've only been asked once or twice over the three weeks or so that I've been using it. Just like Anki, I can abandon a memrise session at any time. Quite what the effect is on the internal statistics, I don't know. The particular "course" that I've picked on only has 189 words in it. If I keep planting 20/day then I'll have seen all the words in another week or so. I guess that once they begin to stick in my memory I'll not need to repeat them too often. I don't know what Memrise will do then. Perhaps it'll suggest I find another course? (I do see some courses that have several thousand words - working through one of those would be a long term project I guess). I'm using Memrise as a supplement to the other things I'm doing: listening to CDs during my daily commute, actively trying to learn various grammar points and working through online courses, working through a grammar book, listening to (but not yet understanding much of) various internet news outlets. It seems to be helping so far. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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