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emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5560 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 13 27 March 2012 at 7:23pm | IP Logged |
lwtproject, thank you for all your work on LWT, and for the pointer to Mecab!
Arrekuku, thank you for mentioning Wakaru.
Here are screenshots.
It's a very nice UI: the text is on top, and the definitions are on a translucent panel
at the bottom of the screen. Wakaru apparently comes with Japanese -> English and
Japanese -> French dictionaries.
How do you think pitch accent should work? Should it just be specified with the
pronunciation, or is there are better way to do it?
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5409 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 10 of 13 27 March 2012 at 8:05pm | IP Logged |
emk wrote:
How do you think pitch accent should work? Should it just be specified with the pronunciation, or is there are better way to do it? |
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It's still too much to ask for a system that points to the actual pitch (it changes depending on the grammatical context), but I'll settle for the pitch of dictionary entries.
Pitch accent dictionaries use lines above words and that works very well. Otherwise, some online dictionaries use a number after the word, and that works too. As long as the info is there and it's consistent, it's fine. Actually, it's not just fine, it would be huge improvement.
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| Lucky Charms Diglot Senior Member Japan lapacifica.net Joined 6977 days ago 752 posts - 1711 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 11 of 13 28 March 2012 at 6:46am | IP Logged |
lwtproject wrote:
Lucky Charms wrote:
...but LWT is hopeless at recognizing word boundaries in
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Use Mecab, insert spaces automatically, and import into LWT. You can also use LWT with 1
char = word setting
and import a dictionary with the 10,000 most frequent words. Makes it a lot easier then.
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Thanks for the advice. This is the first time I've heard about Mecab. I'll check it out.
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| dleewo Groupie United States Joined 5846 days ago 95 posts - 131 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Mandarin
| Message 12 of 13 28 March 2012 at 10:53pm | IP Logged |
I like LWT, but I don't use it as it doesn't work well on my iPad. I am aware of the
frames issues. I would pay for a native iPad app that can use a LWT server and thus
eliminate the issues with frames. Or even a new HTML5 web UI for LWT that doesn't need
frames.
I don't know about others, but sitting at my computer to use LWT or any other kind of
language learning tool is a non-starter for me.
Derek
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emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5560 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map
| Message 13 of 13 28 March 2012 at 11:12pm | IP Logged |
At the moment, I'd really love something which ran well on a smart phone. For example,
on Android, I'd like to:
1. Import text from the browser using "share URL".
2. Run the whole thing through Readability (or whatever) to strip out the clutter.
3. Read using a built-in copy of Wikitionary.fr, with optional links to online
dictionaries and Linguee.fr. Bonus points if I can use my dodgy Larousse app easily.
4. Keep track of how often I look up a given word, and how often it appears.
5. Make it easy to review the most important vocabulary, preferably by generating all-
French SRS cards in several styles.
At the intermediate level, I really don't want to make an SRS card for every
unknown word. I'd love to focus on the words which give me trouble on a semi-regular
basis. The idea is to boost natural learning, not to brute force it. :-)
Oh, and one more goodie:
6. Import subtitle files.
Edited by emk on 28 March 2012 at 11:13pm
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