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| gmat2013 Newbie United States iforeignlanguage.com Joined 4302 days ago 3 posts - 4 votes Speaks: Italian | Message 9 of 12 15 February 2013 at 4:51am | IP Logged | ||
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I definitely favor listening first as opposed to reading. When you listen you automatically get the pronunciation, however, when you read you may not remember or understand the phonetics behind the letters. I work with teenagers and I do alot of speaking and listening activities before introducing reading. If they are reading words they do not know, their pronunciation is a disaster and their frustration level rises. I try to only have them read words that they already know. When we grow up in our native tongue we listen for years before learning to read and write. In schools today, way too much emphasis is put on writing and reading before speaking and listening. That is my take on this subject. George
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes  Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 10 of 12 15 February 2013 at 2:47pm | IP Logged | ||
Just a few points to your comments. First of all, you don't necessarily get the pronunciation right when you hear a word. We hear through the filter of our own language(s) -- we assume a t is a t, without understanding why or if it's aspirated or palatalized, for instance. To claim that you can properly reproduce what you hear would also be a false assumption. Interference is there both when you hear or read a word. Either way, you need to learn to deal with this as a learner. To learn to read and pronounce words you've never encountered is a skill you can develop. The reason we don't learn to read and write earlier as children is simply because we don't have the cognitive skills to do it -- not because it's an intrinsically better or more logical order of things. As adults, we already know how to read and write, and to transfer that skill to another language is no that big a deal. Edited by Arekkusu on 15 February 2013 at 3:01pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 11 of 12 15 February 2013 at 3:47pm | IP Logged | ||
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I agree with Arekkusu, pronunciation is a skill you can train. For example, I could not
roll an r until I was 22. But I can roll an r now, and that's pure practice, it has nothing to do with it being impossible. In fact, the first thing I do when I tackle a new language is read up on its sound system, to check for unknown phonemes that I need to practice. That is not to say I don't make mistakes, but even for Russian I can pronounce (almost) all of the sounds in such a way I am perfectly understandable. Edited by tarvos on 15 February 2013 at 3:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5055 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 12 of 12 15 February 2013 at 4:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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Reading should be combined with listening, but pure listening doesn't give much.
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