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| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4951 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes  Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 1 of 42 23 June 2013 at 4:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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(DISCLAIMER: I put "French" as a language only because I cannot choose two, and it
was the first in the alphabet, but this is a German-French log) This will be the only entry in English for this log. I have decided to attempt to go through six (6) months (the second half of 2013), in as close of an full immersion situation as possible. My current language schedule is: - 4 hours Mandarin in the morning (my language level is A0+ as of June 2013 :) ) - 4-5 hours German four days a week (evenings), French three days a week (evening), with a fourth French day every third week In both languages, my current estimated levels are: C1 solid in Reading C1 in Listening B2 solid in Writing (C1 when having time to edit and use research to correct) B2 in Speaking (in everyday situations somewhat fluent, may breakdown in more complex subject matter. I still make some surprisingly simple mistakes like "Il" for "elle" in French, and sometimes forget to use the subjunctive verb when required. In German I still may mess up with the cases 1 out every 4 times, and sometimes still hesitate of the gender. I still have some issues with very complex verb heavy sentences) For the Indo-European languages I do generally: 1. 60-120 minutes audio input (exact amount of time depends on day) 2. 30 minutes vocabulary and dialogue review 3. 30-60 reading input 4. 30 minutes writing (usually corresponding) 5. 30-60 grammar review (not every day but at least once a week) The times above do not include at least 120 minutes (2 hours) each week conversation. I attend a 120 minute French conversational class, and two 60 minute German tutoring conversational sessions with a tutor and a friend of mine who speaks near perfect German. I also get an extra 2-3 hours of output/input practice every month with monthly French/German expat meetings. I want to keep all the above, most especially the conversation hours, which has indeed helped me A LOT in the last two months. But I want to do two additional things now to take this push to C1 to overdrive: 1) eliminate English (and Spanish), to the bare minimum in my life from here until 23:59 Dec 31st 2013) 2) THINK in German or French when performing my daily life 3) Write an essay each week in each language over a subject (more on that in a second) 4) Read a very high level entry in French or German in subjects like Space, Biology, History, Economics, Medicine, etc, to begin a "C2-esque" understanding of vocabulary and paragraph construction in those languages when writing about academic topics. The first 2 goals in that list are by far the hardest. But I will try my best. One thing about the essay writing: I think it would be an interesting experiment if I write the essays here for everyone to read, and furthermore, that I write them in real-time, for lack of a better way of expressing it. In other words, I will just "type away", without doing any corrections of grammar, vocabulary, spelling, or the like. A sort of "virtual speaking", where once I type something I cannot correct what I wrote (same as when we speak). This will allow me and others to chart my progress, if I show any :) I could also do this and then re-read the essays the next day and then make corrections and post the corrected version of the essay. Anyway, this project starts tomorrow, June 24th 2013. The first week or two will be trial-and-error, to adjust to the new situation and see what works for me or doesn't. I will not write in English after this, except if or when I edit this initial thread. Wish me luck, I will need it. Six months virtual immersion here we go, I hope... CLUES: I will write here things that I may use to indicate certain things that happen when I am typing an answer or post here: ...hmm... = this means I could not recall a word or phrase to say what follows "hmm" at the time I was typing Edited by outcast on 24 June 2013 at 6:44am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6107 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 2 of 42 23 June 2013 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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Je vais suivre vos progrès.
Bonne chance et bonne réussite ! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5011 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 3 of 42 23 June 2013 at 7:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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Bonne chance. Ça sera pas facile de penses en français/allemand tout le temps mais je crois que tu t'entraineras bien. J'attends avec impatience le commencement de ton expériment. :-)
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| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4951 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 4 of 42 24 June 2013 at 6:33am | IP Logged | ||
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Merci, j'espère pouvoir garder ma promesse, je doit admettre, moi, n'avoir pas encore
consience de le projet que j'ai décidé de poursuivre. L'experience a déjà commencé et j'écrit cette reponse sans penser trop et sans faire de corrections. C'est pour ça que vous verrons beaucoup de faute en particulier au début. Je ferai corrections de mes fautes un peu plus tard. S'il y a quelqu'un qui veuille me corriger bien sûr je vous serai reconnaissant. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4951 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 5 of 42 24 June 2013 at 6:41am | IP Logged | ||
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Mon programme de langues c'est le suivant:
(je veux dire "it's the following", mais je ne suis pas sûr comme-t-on dit cette expression) Lundi-Mardi: français Mercredi-Jeudi: allemand Vendredi: allemand deux fois par mois, français une fois par mois (l'autre vendredi je reste complètement d'étudier. Je pense à rien, je fais rien) samedi: français dimanche: allemand Evidemment, je vais écrire ici seulement dans une langue le jour ...hmm... qui correspond. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4951 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 6 of 42 24 June 2013 at 6:49am | IP Logged | ||
Cela est un exemple de la façon que je ferai les corrections. Je montrerai dans des gros titres les fautes et puis faire une liste des corrections. Je sais que même les corrections pourriaient avoir des fautes!! Edited by outcast on 24 June 2013 at 6:58am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4951 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 7 of 42 24 June 2013 at 6:52am | IP Logged | ||
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*de le = du
*j'écrit = j'ai écrit *faute = fautes *?? = des (pas sûr) *je = j'en Mais maintenant, c'est vraiment l'heure d'aller me coucher. Bonne nuit à toutes et tous et merci pour ...hmm... l'encouragement! Edited by outcast on 24 June 2013 at 7:00am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4951 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 8 of 42 24 June 2013 at 6:55am | IP Logged | ||
C'est "l'expérience", pas "expériment". :) 1 person has voted this message useful |
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