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Tupacalypse
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Speaks: English*, Swahili
Studies: French

 
 Message 1 of 15
01 August 2013 at 5:26am | IP Logged 
Hey all, so I'm still trying to figure out the intricacies of this website. A little
background on myself - I'm currently entering year one of my Masters in International
Relations. My ultimate goal is to work for the UN (lofty, and maybe idealistic, I
know). I figure in order to best make myself a viable candidate, and for practical
purposes, I should master some official UN languages. Since English and French are
both official languages of the UN, and since my native language is English, I thought
French would be a good start.

I took 2 semesters of french in my undergrad but have forgotten a lot. I would say now
that I am on the A1/A2 threshold and would like to be B1 by December. Ultimately, I
would like to be C1 or even C2 after 2 years before I enter the workforce.

Following French, I would like to learn Arabic, and after return to studying Spanish
(which I have somehow retained a lot of knowledge in, but haven't studied since high
school). All the while I am doing this, I will continue to brush up on my Kiswahili
(which is my most studied language).

So, I am kicking off my French studies with the 6 week challenge beginning tonight. I
am starting right at midnight and can't wait!!! My plan is as follows:

Methods and tools
Primary
Carnegie Mellon OLI French 1 (free courseware online, for those interested)
http://oli.cmu.edu/
Assimil French with Ease (still need to purchase this)
[[Possibly]] Rosetta Stone...I have the French version on my computer but wonder
if its worth it to bother learning this alongside Assimil or if it will be too
divergent of learning techniques.

Secondary
Duolingo Android app (for trains, bus rides, bathrooms etc.) I make it a goal to
do one small lesson a day.
Anki - Starting with Michel Thomas flashcards somebody was nice enough to put
up.
Short books (taking recommendations)
Easy radio segments/news

My plan of attack thus far is one lesson of Carnegie Mellon a week (there are 15
lessons designed for a semester's worth) along with a to be determined amount of
Assimil. I will keep updating this and probably edit this initial post when I get
things better figured out. Hopefully this goes as planned!
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kujichagulia
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 Message 2 of 15
01 August 2013 at 6:25am | IP Logged 
Welcome aboard, Tupacalypse!

BTW, your username sounds like one of my brother's all-time favorite CDs.
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Tupacalypse
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 Message 3 of 15
01 August 2013 at 4:52pm | IP Logged 
kujichagulia wrote:
Welcome aboard, Tupacalypse!

BTW, your username sounds like one of my brother's all-time favorite CDs.


Hah yup that's what I named it after!

Did you intend for your username to be in Kiswahili?!

Also, after logging 1.5 hours last night...I can say that this will be a tough road...as
Grad school ramps up my language studying will diminish, but I will make sure to study at
least some every day!
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kujichagulia
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 Message 4 of 15
02 August 2013 at 12:38am | IP Logged 
A relative of mine observes Kwanzaa every year, and I remember him talking about the different themes for each day of the holiday, and one of them was "kujichagulia", which I believe means something like "self-determination." I liked the idea of that, so I used it as my username.

I have not yet studied Kiswahili, but I have not ruled out studying it in the future!

Grad school AND language study... good luck! But you can do it.
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kanewai
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Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese
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 Message 5 of 15
02 August 2013 at 2:00am | IP Logged 
I apply for a lot of UN jobs (though I have never landed an interview), and the
languages I see the most often are English, French, and Russian. Though I would think
Arabic would help, and most postings say that "Knowledge of other UN official languages
would be an asset."

So, French is an excellent start!

I think divergent learning techniques are the best way to go, and Carnegie + Assimil
sounds like a good combination. Rosetta Stone might be too simple.

I"m curious to hear about the duolingo app - that's new to me!

For short books, de Maupassant and Gide are classic authors who have a relatively
straight-forward style. However, I'd hold off on these until you have a stronger base.
I read a lot, but found it was much more rewarding once I passed the B1 level. Before
that I didn't get much 'bang for the buck' - it took a lot of effort, and I don't think
I learned as much as I did from actual courses (I know others here disagree, and would
tell you to jump right in).

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Tupacalypse
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 Message 6 of 15
05 August 2013 at 2:23am | IP Logged 
Thanks all for the input! An update so far.

This weekend was a little slow. My girlfriend came to visit so I didn't get much
studying done ;) but she's Haitian so she actually helps me with my French, since she
knows that as well as Creole. Her mom also says she wants to be my tutor haha. So far I
have only logged about 3 hours of studying but tonight I am going ham on the studying.
Thanks for the book recommendations, hopefully I'll be able to start reading some around
December then! And yes, right now any languages help with the UN, especially the
official ones.
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Tupacalypse
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 Message 7 of 15
09 August 2013 at 1:39am | IP Logged 
Update:

I have gone through 3 lessons of OLI so far along with consistent use of Anki. I am
waiting to order Assimil till I order my textbooks for class (in the next week). But
thus far I have spent about 15 hours on French so far and can say that I have already
come a long way.

I still am confused about liaisons though in some instances.

états-unis .....do you pronounce it etaT-unis or etaZ-Unis? There are some instances I
can't think of off the top of my head that are similar, especially when it comes to
having "Vous" before something with a vowel.
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Cabaire
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 Message 8 of 15
09 August 2013 at 3:12am | IP Logged 
You say [etazyni], this liaison is lexicalized and therefore obligatory.


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