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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 10 of 27 15 September 2013 at 8:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
Do you perceive the distances between languages within the Slavic family as being more close than they are within the Romance family? I only have experience with Russian. And when you answer questions, it would be helpful to provide an explanation with an answer of "no". The why is more important than the yes/no response, even though it's not explicit. Edited by tarvos on 15 September 2013 at 8:37pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4842 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 11 of 27 15 September 2013 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | |||||
I was going to say the same thing... At school, we learned to always give a reason for a statement. Anybody can simply say "yes" or "no". It only gets interesting when you also explain why you think that way. Edited by Josquin on 15 September 2013 at 9:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| albysky Triglot Senior Member Italy lang-8.com/1108796Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4386 days ago 287 posts - 393 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German | Message 12 of 27 15 September 2013 at 9:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Ok ,thanks . What is pretty sure is that for speakers of non slavic languages is really tough to learn one .
So another question , do you think it harder for say a spaniard to learn russian or vice versa ? I would be more inclined to say that the first option is the most probable .... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 13 of 27 15 September 2013 at 9:17pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think both will have things to deal with. I don't think it matters either way. Honestly
I also find deliberating over difficulty a little tiring - difficulty is partly a frame of mind. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4842 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 14 of 27 15 September 2013 at 9:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The Spaniard will have to deal with cases and verbal aspects while the Russian will have to get used to the enormous number of Spanish verb tenses and to articles. For both, pronunciation won't be easy and there are only few cognates.
Anyway, when talking about the "difficulty" of a language, we mostly reduce it to the basic grammar. All grammar can be learned with enough practice! The real problem is getting a language to a level where you feel comfortable in it. This takes a lot of time and energy, because it can only be achieved by listening and speaking a lot. You haven't mastered Russian when you know how cases and aspects work and you haven't mastered Spanish when you can tell the difference between the indefinido and the perfecto and know when to use the subjunctive. Those are merely the basics. The really difficult things come after that. But, most important: You only think Spanish is easier than Russian because you speak a closely related language as your native language. For a native Japanese speaker, I think there wouldn't be much of a difference between the two. Edited by Josquin on 15 September 2013 at 9:39pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5007 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 15 of 27 15 September 2013 at 10:22pm | IP Logged | |||||
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First of all, slavic languages are european languages.
I don't think English is a good example as it's pronunciation is much further from the other large Germanic or romance languages than any other of the group. I think natives of slavic speakers have actually got a few advantages in comparison with English natives but, as usual, there is the other side of the coin as well. There is still a lot of shared vocabulary (most can be found in western slavic languages of course but you could find some in all), the grammar is not as far as grammar of asian languages for example. And there is still a lot of similar logic in the languages. After all, Latin-mother to the romance languages, had conjugations and declinations, less fix word order and so on. And I think especially the western slavic natives don't have that much of a pronunciation obstacle when learning most romance or Germanic languages. I I actually believe Czech gave me much better grounding for French, Spanish, German (and even Swedish from the bits I can already see) than English could have given me. And listening to the people I meet, from various countries, just confirms my theory but it is no serious research, true. But we have one major disadvantage: there isn't much point in learning other slavic languages. A romance language native can learn quite a similar language and gain an important socioeconomic asset for their life for a reasonable price. I may learn other slavic languages out of interest but it will not pay off the same way. Even if it is Russian. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4666 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 16 of 27 16 September 2013 at 3:40am | IP Logged | |||||
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Croatians find Spanish and Italian easier than Russian. ;)
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