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oldorange1
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 Message 9 of 11
26 January 2012 at 5:51pm | IP Logged 
RMM....   If you learned Italian through Opera, did you find that the repetitive time you spent on the same Opera made you less interested in actually seeing/enjoying it once you had learned it and knew it? Curious... thanks... m.
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RMM
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 Message 10 of 11
28 January 2012 at 12:27am | IP Logged 
No, on the contrary, I think that the time I spent with the recordings and libretti helped make seeing opera live more enjoyable. Opera is a very multi-faceted artform. There is so much to pay attention to when actually seeing an opera (the quality of the singing, conductor, and orchestra, the production/interpretation, the sets, costumes, lighting, plot, acting, etc.) that not having to be glued to the subtitles/surtitles in addition allowed me to appreciate the performances more.

Beyond this, classical music in general, and esp. classical music that also contains a vocal line or multiple vocal lines, is a complex musical form. The more I go over the same music, the more nuances and fresh details that I typically find in it. Many of the operas that I am most familiar with are still among my very favorite operas (Otello, Boheme, Traviata, etc.).
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Jinx
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 Message 11 of 11
28 January 2012 at 2:27pm | IP Logged 
I love opera, but unfortunately this technique has never worked for me. Even if an opera singer is singing in English, I just can't understand it! I think this is due to their vocal technique. As a singer, you get trained to emphasize vowels and make your consonants more subtle, and this is especially true for opera singers. Runs/trills/coloratura etc. are only produced on vowels, and the consonants end up fading into the background, at least to my ear. Has anyone else had this problem?


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