Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4653 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 25 of 31 03 March 2013 at 7:17pm | IP Logged |
pesahson wrote:
Unless I have the names of the cases wrong in English (but I did look it up :))in the sentence Nie mam czasu - czasu is in the genitive (dopełniacz kogo? czego?). Mam czas - czas is in the accusative (biernik kogo? co?). Instumental (narzędnik z kim? z czym?) has nothing to do with those two sentences. |
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Pesahson is correct, and I'm ashamed to admit that my teacher at uni did get the cases wrong :P
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pesahson Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5730 days ago 448 posts - 840 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese, Norwegian
| Message 26 of 31 03 March 2013 at 9:55pm | IP Logged |
Zireael wrote:
I'm ashamed to admit that my teacher at uni did get the cases wrong :P |
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What do you mean? At a university in PL?
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Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4491 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish
| Message 27 of 31 25 July 2013 at 4:25pm | IP Logged |
Well, it's been a long long time but I feel able to get back into this now. My German and Spanish are on hold until next year, and I find I keep wanting to get back into the Polish because it's the language I like best anyway. I've been reading a bit of Colloquial Polish before I go to sleep and I haven't forgotten as much as I feared. Just I need to be able to convince myself that I'll actually keep at it this time.
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Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6107 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish
| Message 28 of 31 25 July 2013 at 10:42pm | IP Logged |
Welcome back Chav, I thought the wolves had got you!
Well, you have the rest of this year to devote to Polish it seems, so if you have the time - go for it. Are you using native materials? Once I had sufficient grasp of the grammar and a basic vocubualry I started reading Polish books/blogs and watching Polish TV. If you can get yourself hooked on a TV series or a book, it'll give you a meaningful outlet for all the grammar studies etc.
It's a long road and I had several false starts in 2008. Then in August 2010 I got serious about learning Polish and have done something in it (study, read, listen etc.) every day since. Even in hospital. There's still a lot that's hazy but I can look back now and remind myself of the progress I've made.
Powodzenia!
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Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4491 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish
| Message 29 of 31 26 July 2013 at 12:11am | IP Logged |
I fought the wolves, but in the end I won!
I'm too newbie to use native materials yet, but I do listen to some music in Polish occasionally in the hope of catching the odd word here and there. I've just met the accusative case (again...) but luckily I know what it does this time so I'm a bit better prepared to use it.
I did manage to get through the Michel Thomas intro course before, so listening to that again is mostly about remembering the words. It doesn't do cases which makes me imagine those students on the audio going off and discovering a world of grammar and crying in despair. But who knows, maybe they're experts by now. I'd like to think so.
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Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4491 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish
| Message 30 of 31 28 July 2013 at 4:44am | IP Logged |
Well today I've been working with the genitive case, which is the second case to show up in Colloquial Polish. I'm trying to go fairly slowly and read things over and make sure I'm learning at least some of the vocabulary, as well as giving the grammar time to sink in. Basically I'm trying not to rush through it. My only solid study goal at the moment is to try and get halfway through the book, because that's less of a weight on me than "I must finish this book immediately."
Also listened to some BloggyPolish podcasts and read a bit of my Reader for beginners, where the exciting plot twist was that the student had a bicycle. And I wrote about four sentences on Lang-8 because I can't say much more than that yet. I hope one day I will be able to write as many as five entire sentences!
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Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4491 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish
| Message 31 of 31 29 July 2013 at 12:29am | IP Logged |
I am on Lesson 5 of Colloquial Polish now. I've met the Accusative and Genitive cases and I think I more or less understand when to use them, but I know I need more practice to get better accuracy and speed. I like the feeling that my vocabulary is getting a bit bigger each day.
I've heard a lot about the importance of reading, but I have no idea when I should start on that. I have a reader for beginners that seems to be about my level (AKA someone who knows almost nothing) and reading it is quite enjoyable even though it's not really about anything and I don't always understand what's going on with the grammar.
I'm also trying to listen to something every day even if I can only pick out a few words of what is being said, because it seems like hearing the language must be useful in some way.
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