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| Surtalnar Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 4395 days ago 52 posts - 67 votes  Speaks: German*, Latin, English, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), Arabic (classical) | Message 1 of 7 27 January 2013 at 1:24am | IP Logged |
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Is it possible to write "un-million" after the French writing Reform of 1990?
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| grunts67 Diglot Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5301 days ago 215 posts - 252 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish, Russian | Message 2 of 7 27 January 2013 at 3:34am | IP Logged |
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no, you need to write 'un million'.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 3 of 7 27 January 2013 at 6:24am | IP Logged |
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I have to admit that I'm not too familiar with the new rules, but I've never seen it
written that way. I can't imagine, either, what kind of rule would allow you to put a hyphen there. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Surtalnar Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 4395 days ago 52 posts - 67 votes Speaks: German*, Latin, English, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), Arabic (classical) | Message 4 of 7 27 January 2013 at 12:55pm | IP Logged |
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So I guess the following is correct:
un million un million-et-un million million-et-un This is wrong: un-million un-million-et-un Merci for the help. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| agantik Triglot Senior Member France Joined 4634 days ago 217 posts - 335 votes Speaks: French*, English, Italian Studies: German, Norwegian | Message 5 of 7 27 January 2013 at 6:48pm | IP Logged |
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I would say " un million un" .
You only add "et" for numbers ending with 21,31,41,51,61,71. So you say Un million un Un million vingt-et-un. Trois cent un There is also a trick with 1001: when it is in an enumeration (1000,1001,1002) you say "mille un". However when you use it in sentence you say "mille et un" which then becomes synonymous with "a lot" For example : - on pouvait voir mille et une couleurs / a lot of colours could be seen. - les Mille et Une Nuits / the Arabian Nights Hope it helps! 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Surtalnar Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 4395 days ago 52 posts - 67 votes Speaks: German*, Latin, English, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), Arabic (classical) | Message 6 of 7 28 January 2013 at 7:59pm | IP Logged |
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I'd prefer to use the hyphened version of the numbers, because I want to already memorize
the new spelling while learning. I learn for the future, not for the past. ;) But thanks for the hint regarding the redundant "et" between "million" and "un", I just forgot it. But we learn always new things. ;P So in my case I write in the future: (un) million-un (un) million-ving-et-un (un) mille-un I wish you a nice evening. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 7 of 7 28 January 2013 at 8:16pm | IP Logged |
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I just read a bit on the subject. The problem seems to be that mille, million and millard are nouns and there is some disagreement as to whether they are to be hyphenated or not.
One thing is for sure, "million-un" is incorrect as you will always have "un" (or another number) in front of it. So, to follow your logic, you'd have "un-million-un". You wouldn't have "un" in front of "mille", so you'd get "mille-un". You may choose to write for the future if you will, but should you also choose to use the language in the present, you'll see that this new rule is not applied very often. At least not yet. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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