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| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes  Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 1 of 37 20 June 2013 at 11:20pm | IP Logged |
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NEW LOG: http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?
TID=36432&PN=1 I'm liveblogging my progress!!! Well kind of, I just describe what I've done right after I do it, so, for the flowery and formal introduction... Hello and welcome to be language log, where I describe my language learning process in excruciating and probably unnecessary detail. I'm learning German and French, though I don't know how one gets two languages in the "Type" box, so I just put German, which is the language I'm going to focus on. Deutsch-My focus language-Starting from zero I will take an A2 German proficiency test (ZDP/A2) next spring, so I suppose I should aim for A2-B1 level. I suppose I should aim for B1 to be on the safe side. I am starting from the beginning. I'm using a book called "Learn German the Fast and Fun Way (3rd edition)", WordReference, Verbix, the German is Easy Blog (http://yourdailygerman.wordpress.com/), and Anki. Français-The other language-Intermediate level already My level in French is somewhat intermediate, having studied it for three years in secondary school. I'm currently reading texts on http://bliubliu.com/ (a website that finds texts according to your level with a few unknown words) Note: I edit this post very often, in order to add new languages, reformat, or do some maintenance. Bleiben Sie dran!!!!NEW LOG Edited by dtvrij74_ on 12 July 2013 at 12:25am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5011 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 2 of 37 21 June 2013 at 1:10am | IP Logged |
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Sounds good!
Which LL are you going to use? The Ultimate? I'm looking forward to following your log. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 3 of 37 21 June 2013 at 1:46am | IP Logged |
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@Cavesa Right now, I'm using Essential, though I plan on using the next two books in the
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| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 4 of 37 21 June 2013 at 1:47am | IP Logged |
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Anyways, I'm moving my language log to HTLAL, here is my previous progress from around
last week Day 1 of German I am following an audiobook course called "Living Language: German." There are three courses, Essential, Intermediate, and Advanced. I have done two Lektionen (lessons) so far: Lektion eins: Wichtige Ausdrüke Lesson one: Essential expressions Basic greetings Basic conversation with Wie heißen Sie? and ich heiße Simple questions with Wer and Wie and Wo/Woher Lektion zwei: Leute und Familie Lesson two: People and the Family Vocabulary Intermediate family extended family A conversation about the family (including the word das Foto) Grammar Der, die, das Ein, eine Mein, meine Grammatical gender and why it will rule your world 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 5 of 37 21 June 2013 at 2:04am | IP Logged |
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Lektion drei: Zahlen
Today, I learned: Counting/Numbers Von eins bis hundert Double digit numbers are mainly formed by the second number + und + (first number * 10)...for example 23=dreiundzwanzig (three and twenty) I haven't learned numbers over 100 though I am guessing they're similar in logic. Plural forms of nouns So, apparently plurals are irregular -n: Schwester/Schwestern, Tante/Tanten umlauted vowels: Vater/Väter, Mutter/Mütter, Tochter, Töchter -s: Foto/Fotos no changes: Mädchen/Mädchen Diminutive endings in nouns They always end in -chen or -lein (Mädchen and Mütterlein) They're always neuter! They stay the same no matter singular or plural I haven't been taught when to use/not use the diminutive form of a noun, but it seems appealing because all words are neuter and don't change when in the plural form. Or maybe that's a lie and there are some exceptions (<tangent>I'm thinking back to learning grammar in French class</tangent>) Dialogue: phone call The end-of-chapter dialogue was between two friends, Paula and Philipp. Paula is asking to use Philipp's phone to call her mom in Amerika because it's her mom's birthday. The dialogue would be more interesting if Paula and Phillip played more "exciting" roles, like kidnapper and victim. Not to say that it was a bad dialogue (it introduced the word Bitte and some new verbs), but I've seen the same (hackneyed) dialogue in other language textbooks. Maybe my mind's messed up or something.. I also learned that Germanophones answer the phone (pun intended..) by saying "Hier" + their name, or name + greeting. They hang up by saying "Auf Wiederhören" (comparable to Auf Wiedersehen, I wonder what they would say by text message.. Anyways.. Auf wiedersehen! Mach's gut! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 6 of 37 21 June 2013 at 2:15am | IP Logged |
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I am also following the blog http://yourdailygerman.wordpress.com/
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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5011 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 7 of 37 21 June 2013 at 2:38am | IP Logged |
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I have recently looked at the series and I was quite disappointed as they look much worse in comparison with the older series but I only tried what I could access for free. It is sure that even their Advanced level covers only about half the former Ultimate and leads only somewhere around A1, perhaps A2. But it still might be a good beginner course, would you please write more about your path through it here? As you are probably the first HTLALer using it, would you mind if I made a link to your log from the wikia page about the LL courses?
Have you bought only the course or the expensive version with the tutored lessons? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 8 of 37 21 June 2013 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
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@Cavesa It definitely seems like a good beginner course, and I'll update my progress as
I go. The book itself does go at a very slow page. I will also probably be using other resources. I borrowed LL from my local library, which has the complete Book+CD set. A link to this page would be great! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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