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| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes  Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 9 of 37 21 June 2013 at 7:58pm | IP Logged |
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Lektion vier: Zuhause
Vocabulary -Basic house/furniture/room vocabulary; die Wohnung, das Wohnzimmer, der Tisch, etc -the table/on the table (der Tisch/auf dem Tisch) -es gibt: there is/are -Searching for an apartment: die Annonce (like French and Norwegian, wow), der/die Mitbewohner, die Wohngemeinschaft/die WG, wohnen Grammar: Auf and the dative case -articles after auf change from nominative->dative case (der->dem) -Noun not declined, declension shown by the noun's article -Wait, dative feminine from of "the" is der?? -der->dem, die->der, das->dem -prepositions: auf, unter, neben, vor, hinter -im+dem=im (masculine and neuter dem) -possessive pronouns (mein) have ending changes, just like definite articles: for example, in der Küche/in meiner Küche -Some grammar exercises are too easy, in my opinion. The "Take it Home" section of the Lektion is really dull because it's supposed to "reinforce" the grammar concepts. What this means is that basically your supposed to fill in the blanks with the same word. At least they tell you that all the words in the blanks will be the same and they tell you what word to write (for example: im). This section really does not make me use my brain. However, the audio part was slightly better, though the gender of the noun is given and you have to decide between in der or im "You'll learn more about this topic later!" says the book every time they come to an interesting/important grammar topic -_- 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 10 of 37 21 June 2013 at 8:01pm | IP Logged |
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I feel like watching this video series with German subtitles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lk9rS7n-4Q I am afraid that my level is too low, though. I will watch it some other time. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 11 of 37 21 June 2013 at 9:47pm | IP Logged |
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So now that pages don't take 114 seconds to generate, I guess I'll post some more:
I've been reading this page, this is what I've learned so far: http://yourdailygerman.wordpress.com/2012/02/03/german-conju gation-online-course/ Verbs I've learned some basic things about verbs: -Conjugation of regular verbs (like lieben) in the present tense -s denotes the "du" form -verbs with a t at the end also take an extra e in conjugation, like warten (ich wartet) -STem changing: a->ä e->i or ie -Weak and strong linked verbs: Strong verbs have prefixes, like aufstehen: ich **stehe** morgen um 7 **auf** Strong verbs have these prefixes: ver, ent, zer, be, ge, er, miss unterschreiben (to sign) and übersetzen (translate) are strongly linked (?) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 12 of 37 22 June 2013 at 4:39am | IP Logged |
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I have decided not to use LL as my primary learning resource, as it moves a bit slowly
for me. Instead of an all-in-one book, I have decided to get specific resources for grammar, vocabulary, and (maybe, if I need it) pronunciation. This leads to a conundrum: which German resources are considered too "old" (as in, outdated grammar/vocabulary)? In a library near me, there are German learning resources ranging from publication in the 1700s to 2013. Also, in some older books circa 1900s, they use the Fraktur font sometimes, which is a little difficult for me to use. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5011 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 13 of 37 22 June 2013 at 5:44am | IP Logged |
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It always depends on the resource. There are some older but great ones that are worth using despite older ortograph but there are good new ones as well.
For pronunciation, I think there is nothing better than the old FSI course. The ortograph is old, but the pronunciation doesn't change that much over a few decades and the drills are awesome. And it is free. For grammar, I recommend Basic German Grammar and Workbook by Routledge. It is nice for a beginner, I liked the explanations and examples even though there could be more exercises. There are many good monolingual sources as well but I think a bilingual one doesn't hurt at all in the beginnings. It is quite new, around 2005. For vocabulary, I have Lernwortschatz by Hueber and it's good. And I found as well Langenscheidt Basic German Vocabulary to be a good source. Again, there are many more on the market. I wouldn't go for the 18th century books :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 14 of 37 22 June 2013 at 10:24pm | IP Logged |
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@Cavesa Thanks, I'll look into those books
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| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 15 of 37 22 June 2013 at 10:44pm | IP Logged |
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Today, I learned about 8 irregular verbs in the present tense in German, from this
page: http://yourdailygerman.wordpress.com/2012/03/19/learn-german -online-verb- conjugation-2/ The endings seem pretty simple, they're the same except no ending is added for the ich and the er/sie/es form. The actual verbs Können kann- to be able to/to have permission to often used with haben Wollen will- To want Technically is a helping verb but doesn't always need a second verb Müssen muss- must/have to does not mean "not need to" rather, it means "not obliged to" Used with mal Mögen mag- to like Ich mag deutsch lernen! Dürfen darf- may/can (less formal), ask permission with dürfen Replacable with können Sollen soll- Must (with the option of disobedience) I guess it's like French's subjunctive Can be replaced with müssen Wissen weiss- weiß- To know Note: wissen for for knowing facts kennen is "to be acquainted with" Exactly like French's savoir and connaître Not a modal verb Some structure and word order The modal verb goes after the subject, the second verb (if there is one) goes at the end of the clause/sentence... Ich will nichts Deutsch lernen. Ich kann nichts Deutsch sprechen. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| dtvrij74_ Diglot Groupie United States danielhonline.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4182 days ago 51 posts - 62 votes Speaks: Mandarin, English* Studies: French, German, Russian, Norwegian | Message 16 of 37 24 June 2013 at 12:11am | IP Logged |
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In der letzten Woche habe ich von der Bibliothek alle Bücher über die deutsche Sprache
bestellt. Heute habe ich die Bücher mitgenommen. ^I'm not sure if that's the correct past tense I'm supposed to use or sentence structure or whatever, it's just so cool to write the verb (past participle) at the end. I read about the past tense on the German is Easy blog that is mentioned under "resources" on the first post So, last week, I basically ordered all the books about German from a big library chain near me. Today, I went to pick them up. I found a book+audio called Learn German the Fast and Fun Way (Third Edition). Flipping through it, I find that it includes a lot of vocabulary, which is what LL is missing. Though, I'm doing the first lesson right now, and all the new vocab a bit overwhelming. I'm also making Anki flashcards as I proceed. Ich will auch schreiben in Deutsch. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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