musigny Triglot Groupie United States Joined 6023 days ago 57 posts - 61 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2, Japanese Studies: Italian
| Message 1 of 2 23 January 2009 at 5:37pm | IP Logged |
I speak Japanese fluently. I lived in Japan for 2+ years in the 90s and I have worked for a Japanese company every since. Speaking in Japanese is a part of my life. I have never been much a classroom language learner. I have always been interested in people and getting to them and their cultures; language heen a tool in that vain. Although I speak Japanese well I never took the time to learn how to read and write. I can recognize a lot of characters. I can even send email in Japanese thanks to IME. However, I don't enjoy receiving emails in Japanese or reading Japanese because it is so much work. I am a bit like a Japanese person from the 4th century prior to the adoption of Chinese script.
I've decided that I would like to refine my Japanese and am making as my goal to pass the 2nd and 1st levels of the JLPT. Kanji has always been the barrier. At some point I had read some criticism of the Heisig method and discarded it as a possibility. After looking around a bit I decided to give it a try. Looking through All Japanese All The Time I discovered some good advice. One big point was to learn all the Kanji prior to even studying Kana. That struck me. Further in the Heisig method you learn all the Kanji in English without learning Japanese pronunications. The analogy to Chinese learning hit home as well. Chinese learners seem to be literate in Japanese so quickly. This is because they understand the characters already but that's it. They don't know how to pronounce them or Japanese grammar at all prior to studying the language. Chinese grammar is no closer to Japanese than any western language. Having a firm grounding in the fundamental meanings of the words, they just start learning pronunication and usage straight away. Going through Heisig gives you that equal footing/foundation to start learning the language.
So I have started. Just finished 70 kanji. I am not going to study anything else until I've gone through the 2K+ joyou kanji. Then I'm going to re-approach the Japanese language with a firm grounding in the script, like the Chinese learner, and spoken fluency.
I hope to finish the in about three months and then plan to work towards passing the 2nd level (2kyu) this year.
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musigny Triglot Groupie United States Joined 6023 days ago 57 posts - 61 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2, Japanese Studies: Italian
| Message 2 of 2 20 May 2013 at 12:36am | IP Logged |
It's been four years and I've made no progress. I'm learning Italian now and don't believe in learning more
than one language at a time. I'm planning however to learn kanji while studying Italian. I'm going to dust off
my Remember the Kaniji and restart using Reviewing the Kanji. My approach is "Kanji with Ease". No stress,
no goals. Just at least 10 minutes a day. Let's see how it goes.
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