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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6485 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 25 of 27 03 January 2012 at 2:50pm | IP Logged |
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Thanks Bao
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| Eagle32 Groupie New Zealand Joined 6436 days ago 56 posts - 83 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 26 of 27 04 January 2012 at 4:21am | IP Logged |
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It's interesting to me to see that the same kind of ideas that are applied in physical training can be applied to mental training. A 10% increase is a pretty commonly cited increase in the amount of work an athlete training for an endurance event should do from week to week.
I wonder if the same kind of reduced work resting periods that are applied in sports training have been considered for the training of mental tasks like those mentioned in the first post? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| allen Newbie United States Joined 5019 days ago 23 posts - 73 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean, Thai | Message 27 of 27 06 January 2012 at 7:46am | IP Logged |
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I think the thing I was trying to grasp in my first post is that the problem in the
original article is different from the sort of problems that language learners face. For us, it's not about how to do something better or faster. It's mostly just learning a massive amount of information. I think often people don't even realize that certain information needs to be learned in the first place. Bao's last post about marking stresses shows the kind of thing that most people might not realize as information that they want to have, but aren't looking for. Then the next thing you'd need to do would be properly reviewing that information. I think the two reasons people plateau is, first, that they don't know what information they're missing or how to get it, and second, they aren't reviewing properly. But I see no reason you'd need to plateau in language learning as long as you're steadily feeding yourself new information and reviewing that information. I think that sometimes you'll need to think out of the box or try different things to access that information and review it properly. I think what happens is that people have a method that they like, but that method only conveniently leads to learning a certain kind of information, and when they've mastered that information, they stop improving even though they there's still information that they've yet to learn. I think it helps to have strong distinctions about what kinds of information there are that you want to learn. Bao, Is your problem that you don't have any native speakers to speak with at all, or that you only want to interact with native speakers you know and are comfortable with. I think if your problem is the latter then it's too much of a problem really. I don't think putting yourself in uncomfortable social situations is necessary to solve the two problems I mentioned above if you are creative in addressing those two problems. Edited by allen on 06 January 2012 at 8:10am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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