Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6516 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 1 of 8 12 January 2012 at 7:29am | IP Logged |
I've found a great set of sentences in Cantonese. They are common sentences that are said in a way different from how they would be said in Mandarin. Usually, saying them in the Mandarin way would be "also correct", but might not sound as idiomatic. I want to use these sentences to improve my Cantonese.
Now, when I read these sentences, I understand what they mean. There aren't really any new words and very few new grammatical constructions. So using them in the AJATT way (adding them L2->L1 in Anki) would just lead to me scoring full points on comprehension and them swooshing off to "review once per year" territory. So what can I do with them?
I can of course memorise them as L1->L2, but that'll be a lot of work, so I thought I'd see if you guys have any ideas first.
(By the way, if you're a Canto learner, here are the sentences. Click on any sentence to see a transcription in some weird romanization, a link to a sound file, as well as a translation into Mandarin.)
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6531 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 2 of 8 12 January 2012 at 7:49am | IP Logged |
You don't have to mark it as "very easy" all the time. Just check your leech threshold settings to make sure these cards don't get suspended.
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6516 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 3 of 8 12 January 2012 at 7:55am | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
You don't have to mark it as "very easy" all the time. Just check your leech threshold settings to make sure these cards don't get suspended. |
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True, but this will mean simply that I'm going to look at these sentences from time to time. Is that enough?
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5700 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 4 of 8 12 January 2012 at 7:58am | IP Logged |
Maybe ask yourself 'in which situation would I use this sentence?' and rate the sentence based on how well you understand it as well as how easily you can come up with a scenario? I have no idea if this might improve recall abilities anymore than just rating by comprehension though.
Edited by Bao on 12 January 2012 at 7:58am
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 5945 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 5 of 8 12 January 2012 at 11:25am | IP Logged |
How about turning them into fill-in-the-blanks exercises? I think the option in Anki is marked "cloze deletion" or something like that.
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Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6516 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German
| Message 6 of 8 12 January 2012 at 12:58pm | IP Logged |
Cainntear wrote:
How about turning them into fill-in-the-blanks exercises? I think the option in Anki is marked "cloze deletion" or something like that. |
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That's a pretty good idea. I believe "cloze deletion" is a feature of SuperMemo, not Anki, but you can easily do it manually, anyway. Thanks for the tip, I'll try that out and see how I feel about it.
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rapp Senior Member United States Joined 5665 days ago 129 posts - 204 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish
| Message 7 of 8 12 January 2012 at 5:37pm | IP Logged |
Anki can definitely do cloze deletions. I use them frequently in my decks.
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6484 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 8 of 8 13 January 2012 at 10:25am | IP Logged |
Sounds like these sentences are more colloquial ways of saying some common things. In my mind, that's something
like an idiom. So you might want to learn them the same way you'd learn idioms. For me, that means L1 to L2 as a
first step. Sorry, I'm not much of a help.
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