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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5772 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes  Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian | Message 57 of 92 09 January 2013 at 8:36pm | IP Logged | ||
Which is a mistake I made countless times at uni and has become one of those fossilised errors that I now kick myself for every time. Thank you, Марк. Maybe I'll learn one of these days! I even know why I do it - it's because на in Russian and "auf" in German can both mean "on", and in German, the foreign language I internalised first, "auf" mostly takes the accusative with phrasal verbs. *Sigh*. Thanks again, Jack Edited by LanguageSponge on 09 January 2013 at 8:39pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5062 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 58 of 92 09 January 2013 at 8:45pm | IP Logged | ||
It would be logical to use the verb with the acc. as it seems to be direction, not location. You are not alone, my father makes the same mistake. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4850 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 59 of 92 09 January 2013 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | ||
I don't know exactly why, but "erneut" sounds better than "wieder" in this context. If you say "Ich buchte den Flug wieder", it sounds like you booked a flight again that you already took some other time, maybe because you liked it so much. The "erneut" makes it clearer that you had to book the same flight all over again. I don't think there's a logical reason why it's "das iPad" but "der iPod". In any case, it has nothing to do with "der Computer". By the way, I corrected your text extra strictly, because your German is already so good that stylistic questions might be more interesting to you than pure orthography and grammar corrections. Edited by Josquin on 09 January 2013 at 9:13pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5062 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 60 of 92 09 January 2013 at 9:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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Latin pono is also unexpectedly used with in + abl (in Russian на + вин. п.).
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5340 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 61 of 92 09 January 2013 at 10:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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Sabes que si aqui hay que escribirte en otros idiomas que el inglés no voy a escribir muy a menudo:-) El
espańol todavía es posible - en los otros idiomas no se sí me atrevo. Hablar idiomas extranjeros no me importa, pero escribirlos es una pesadilla. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5772 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian | Message 62 of 92 12 January 2013 at 2:09am | IP Logged | ||
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Hallo zusammen,
Ich wollte euch nur sagen, dass ich nicht verschwunden bin. Im Moment gerate ich in Familienschwierigkeiten. Da ich im Moment in China bin, sind diese für doppelt so schwer wie normal, deswegen fällt es mir ein wenig schwer zu lernen. In einigen Tagen geht's mir wieder besser, hoffe ich. Hi everyone, I just wanted to say I haven't dropped off the face of the Earth, I'm just having some family trouble at the moment. It's made twice as hard by the fact that I'm in China and where I should be is at home right now, but I should be better soon. -- Cristina - Ich habe nirgendwo gesagt, dass du in einer Fremdsprache schreiben musst. Ich habe nur gesagt, du kannst das tun, wenn du daran Lust hast. -- PS - One little thing I've just thought of (thanks to the bit I wrote above) Josquin, Wort, or whoever else has any idea about this - Ich habe Lust an.... auf.... zu.... etwas. I've seen all three used and no-one's ever told me which is right or if there's any difference at all. Usually if something like this turns up, I have some idea of a distinction, but with this, I have literally no idea. Thanks! Edit - thinking about it, I've only ever heard "Ich habe Lust auf" when talking about food and drink. Am I getting closer? Jack Edited by LanguageSponge on 12 January 2013 at 2:11am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5888 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin | Message 63 of 92 12 January 2013 at 3:19am | IP Logged | ||
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Interesting question. I've done some search (dictionary + grammar + internet) and it seems that this answer is close to right.
zu das Bedürfnis oder der Wunsch, etwas zu tun Ich habe keine Lust zum Schwimmen. auf das Bedürfnis oder der Wunsch, etwas zu haben Ich habe Lust auf einen großen Becher Eis. an Freude, die man bei etwas verspürt Er hat schon nach einem halben Jahr die Lust am Studium verloren. (Let's hope that this won't happen to us!!) 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4850 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 64 of 92 12 January 2013 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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Flarioca's answer is absolutely correct. I never realized "Lust haben" was such a problematic phrase.
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